Interesting. I have not tended to focus much on this problem within the socialist left, looking more at the problems in the identitarian left. I shall investigate.https://twitter.com/PeterTatchell/status/973930531254661120 …
Which is a different argument. We seem to have lost the point. I am talking purely about measures to stop people starving, being homeless & having no medical care.
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It's a different argument but it's relevant because it cuts both ways. You're talking about people victimized, left without dignity from purely economic causes. They are talking about people victimized, left without dignity from other social causes (often including econ ones tho)
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Well, I am a liberal so I can and do care about both. However, I remain more sympathetic to the labour left for the reasons I gave. The identitarian left came from my branch - the liberal one - so obv I think my universal liberal approach is already handling that better.
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Universal liberalism is good. I'm worried about the ways our universal humanity gets divided, socially and economically. Can't totalize class/race/sex like many do because there is the underlying common humanity, but going too far in ignoring them ignores real illiberalism.
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