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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 10

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Areo

      Tweeps! This is the one you absolutely must read! It explains so much and I will be quoting it lots. It needs reading slowly and with full concentration but is clear and well...right.https://twitter.com/AreoMagazine/status/972681293405106176 …

      Helen Pluckrose added,

      Areo @AreoMagazine
      The World Made Flat: The Logocentric Left and the Politics of Provocation | @thesadredearth https://areomagazine.com/2018/03/10/the-world-made-flat-the-logocentric-left-and-the-politics-of-provocation/ …
      18 replies 24 retweets 62 likes
    2. Mike‏ @citation_needed Mar 10
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I tried. I gave it an honest go. But this looks like one of the works that Sokal and Bricmont mercilessly tore apart as an intellectual imposture. It was the passage about how Derrida’s logocentrism “de-centered the logos” that defeated me.

      3 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    3. (((ɹoqǝɹʇs ɹ ɔ)))‏ @MetaRantz Mar 10
      Replying to @citation_needed @HPluckrose

      That was my take, too. I will give it another whirl on the morrow.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Mike‏ @citation_needed Mar 11
      Replying to @MetaRantz @HPluckrose

      Let take two begin!

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. (((ɹoqǝɹʇs ɹ ɔ)))‏ @MetaRantz Mar 11
      Replying to @citation_needed @HPluckrose

      Not until after my coffee.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Mike‏ @citation_needed Mar 11
      Replying to @MetaRantz @HPluckrose

      Mike Retweeted Iona Italia

      I’m buzzing on preworkout, and am valiantly struggling onwards, but frankly @IonaItalia was right here;https://twitter.com/IonaItalia/status/972760399044063233 …

      Mike added,

      Iona Italia @IonaItalia
      Replying to @HPluckrose
      I found it poorly written obscurantist academese that managed to make an interesting idea boring. But I agree with the central thesis.
      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 11
      Replying to @citation_needed @MetaRantz @IonaItalia

      Well, obviously, I disagree but I will make a note of people saying they don't want to read things like this.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Mike‏ @citation_needed Mar 11
      Replying to @HPluckrose @MetaRantz @IonaItalia

      The points he’s trying to make, yes. Those are good, once they’ve been exhumed. The style? No; I appreciate plain speech. I despise obscurantist or opaque language when plain speech will suffice. Funnily enough, I did NOT do well in high school English.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    9. Mike‏ @citation_needed Mar 11
      Replying to @citation_needed @HPluckrose and

      The problem was that was a struggle to read - compared to your writings or Pinker’s or Haidt, it was downright painful. I was serious when I said extracts could’ve appeared in Sokal and Bricmont’s Intellectual Impostures to be lampooned.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 11
      Replying to @citation_needed @MetaRantz @IonaItalia

      But wrong. Nothing anti scientific here. They were fine with poetic language.

      2:00 PM - 11 Mar 2018
      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Mike‏ @citation_needed Mar 11
          Replying to @HPluckrose @MetaRantz @IonaItalia

          Not anti-scientific, no; but very obscurantist. The sort of language Dawkins holds up to ridicule in his review of their work.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 11
          Replying to @citation_needed @MetaRantz @IonaItalia

          Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree. I loved the language. It means precisely what It says tho its unfamiliar to some. No need for any condemnation of it. Ppl can persevere or not.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Mike‏ @citation_needed Mar 11
          Replying to @HPluckrose @MetaRantz @IonaItalia

          I get you; it's just as I said before, I have an instinctive and deep-seated dislike of such prose due to bitter experience with it.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 11
          Replying to @citation_needed @MetaRantz @IonaItalia

          It seems you are not alone. I will enjoy such writing in private in future.

          3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        7. Mike‏ @citation_needed Mar 11
          Replying to @DurinnMcFurren @HPluckrose and

          Yeah - like I said in another tweet, the points I agree with, but I hated the way it was written. That said; it was perfectly targeted at the people who do use such language in the control-left.

          0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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