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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 Mar 9
      Replying to @Plato4Now @TheDissenterYT and

      Yeah, I'm totally advocating that.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Patrick Lee Miller‏ @Plato4Now Mar 9
      Replying to @Intrinsic29 @TheDissenterYT and

      I didn't think you were. I wasn't thinking of you at all. Instead, I had in mind someone else who uses a patina of philosophy to rationalize his prejudices, then, when anyone scratches that patina with critical arguments, responds not rationally but with ridicule.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 9
      Replying to @Plato4Now @Intrinsic29 and

      They might just find the arguments ridiculous?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Patrick Lee Miller‏ @Plato4Now Mar 9
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29 and

      Well that's certainly true. But the question isn't whether they do (or do not) find the arguments ridiculous. The question is whether they should (or should not) do so.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 9
      Replying to @Plato4Now @Intrinsic29 and

      You can certainly ask that question and disagree about the answer. Other people will just go away & talk about something else. I'm like this with Aristotelian Thomism. I know enough of it to know I don't ever want to talk about it again.

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    6. Patrick Lee Miller‏ @Plato4Now Mar 9
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29 and

      1/ OK. But because that was never at issue anywhere in the thread, why don't we return to the substance of the debate? I've read your work on Areo and shared one of your pieces with praise (as you may recall); I would be happy to debate you on the two main questions that arose.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 9
      Replying to @Plato4Now @Intrinsic29 and

      I'm not sure I care enough, but thank you!

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Patrick Lee Miller‏ @Plato4Now Mar 9
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29 and

      Just so I don't misunderstand: you dont' care enough to debate the truth of those propositions? I'm just confused because although I don't know your views on the first, about the second you seemed to care a lot yesterday.

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 9
      Replying to @Plato4Now @Intrinsic29 and

      I am not interested in this conversation anymore, thank you. I tried discussing it. It was pointless & frustrating as I was warned it would be. I don't want to do it again. But thank you.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Patrick Lee Miller‏ @Plato4Now Mar 9
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29 and

      You're welcome. I won't hide my disappointment. I thought we could have a lively and informed debate about things that we both care a great deal about. But I linked you to the essay I wrote for @QuilletteM critical of your approach, and I'd be happy to debate with you any time.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 9
      Replying to @Plato4Now @Intrinsic29 and

      I am all Plato'd out, tbh. I find your approach very tedious indeed. Please link the essay again. I seem to have lost it.

      10:29 AM - 9 Mar 2018
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        2. Patrick Lee Miller‏ @Plato4Now Mar 9
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29 and

          There's no Platonism in the first part (of either of my recent braces for @QuilletteM). And it is the first part that criticizes your approach, so perhaps you will be spared the worst of my tedium:http://quillette.com/2017/12/07/impasse-modernism-postmodernism/ …

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 9
          Replying to @Plato4Now @Intrinsic29 and

          I can't see how it addresses our argument, tbh. Just some rather facile definitions of modernism.

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        4. Patrick Lee Miller‏ @Plato4Now Mar 9
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29 and

          It presents some criticisms of modernism. Some are postmodern, some are Darwinian. I advanced them all as sound. I would think a champion of modernism would want to rebut them. That's why I thought we could have a lively and informed debate.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 9
          Replying to @Plato4Now @Intrinsic29 and

          Thank you but I don't find this at all interesting.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Patrick Lee Miller‏ @Plato4Now Mar 9
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29 and

          You don't find (friendly) criticisms of your approach at all interesting? In case it wasn't clear from my recent @QuilletteM articles, I'm defending the same values you cherish, but I'm doing so by first rebutting the sound criticisms of their philosophical underpinnings.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 9
          Replying to @Plato4Now @Intrinsic29 and

          Not at all interesting, no. I don't doubt the friendliness. I'll leave you to rebut sound criticisms of philosophical underpinnings and we can perhaps defend the same values together in future without either of us being bored to tears by the other's thinking around them?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Patrick Lee Miller‏ @Plato4Now Mar 9
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29 and

          Just to be clear: I'm not bored to tears, or bored at all, by you. As for defending the same values, there will no doubt be many occasions to do so, as there already have been. Ultimately (and perhaps ironically you agree), they're not really the same values.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 9
          Replying to @Plato4Now @Intrinsic29 and

          It does seem unlikely they would be.

          4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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