Precisely. Science can tell us that an axe will cut off someone's head. Something else is needed to tell us whether and when it is ethical to do that. That will be morality & this comes from our brains.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt and
Yes, it comes from our brain, but not just from our moral sentiments alone. Otherwise, any moral sentiment that were to push us toward a certain action, we would simply follow it, right? And, yeah, you have a big prefrontal cortex, and that's another crucial piece.
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Replying to @TheDissenterYT @GodDoesnt and
We have lots of moral sentiments all happening and once and yes, we go with whatever wins and then we rationalise it afterwards. Jonathan Haidt is good on this.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt and
Of course. And then, moral values we develop with our cerebral capacities, and all the parts of the brain and modules you referred to, and our iterative interactions with other people, give rise to moral systems that then inform our decisions and the choice of facts to consider.
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Replying to @TheDissenterYT @GodDoesnt and
And you think Sam Harris or James disagree with this?
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Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt and
If you say tha you can leave philosoph (morality) out of the picture, and just let it all to science and scientific facts. Well, yeah...
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Replying to @TheDissenterYT @GodDoesnt and
Well, no. The point seems to be where does the morality come from and we both agree it's brains. There are scientific facts about our moral brains. I just finished Sapalsky's book on it. Our brains are a scientific fact so in that sense morality is produced by them. BUT:
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I assumed you meant that when we get to the point of discussion, of argument, then we have to distinguish between what is and what ought to be on that level. Eg Can axes chop heads off? Yes. Should we use them for that? Only in very rare & specific cases. Let's discuss.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @TheDissenterYT and
It all reduces to scientific facts in the end but we don't have access to all that info & it'd probably be too complicated to manage if we did so we're left arguing morality in terms of premises, principles and facts to aid us working stuff out.
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