@JamesADamore was just at PSU with @peterboghossian @HeatherEHeying and @HPluckrose. They invited all gender studies profs, who didn’t show. Protesters stood up, cried nazi. And one pushed over their sound equipment. For making the same arguments we are.https://youtu.be/kh2equGCBhw
We have tried before with frustrating results. I can only talk to people if they address what I am actually saying. Disagreement is fine. Persistent (deliberate?) misunderstanding and point-missing just make it a waste of time. It's OK. There are other people to talk to.
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We disagreed over terminology that I thought was very relevant to her point. I’m glad that she at least agrees with me about the actual threat vs the perceived one by fearmongers, but it seems like my form of Socratic dialogue is not her cup of tea. So it goes.
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That's right, yes. We were unable to discuss the substance of the issue I was raising about the problem of having different ethical expectations of different cultures because of your insistence on focusing instead on whether cultural relativism was the right term for the problem.
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I remove myself from such conversations if a person keeps focusing on semantics after a maximum of three attempts of clarifying my meaning & asking that person to instead address what I mean rather than what they think I should call what I mean.
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I did this after getting bogged down in what is the correct definition of 'atheist' and 'feminist' so many times and never getting to actually discuss arguments against the existence of God or how to go about achieving gender equality.
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Cool. My goal is never to bog down, only to get clear on shared terminology before moving forward. Otherwise you just have to start over halfway through.
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This is the problem tho. People never agree to share terminology. They just argue forever about whether an atheist is someone who lacks belief in God or holds a belief that God does not exist. Very very tedious. Much better to establish what they mean by a word & get to substance
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I never called myself one until hearing the passive version. Seven on the Dawkins scale seems like too much certainty. We simply can’t know some things.
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Most of us are a six, I think.
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