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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Cool Catfish Emo Fam‏ @LadyLibertyCunt Mar 7
      Replying to @LadyLibertyCunt @ETVPod and

      And no centrist I’ve met thinks sexism didn’t play a big role, or that it has been completely eliminated. But even as the gender gap has equalized in medicine, law, and so many other fields, in some cases even swinging to a higher % women. Somehow in fields like tech, it can 2/

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    2. Cool Catfish Emo Fam‏ @LadyLibertyCunt Mar 7
      Replying to @LadyLibertyCunt @ETVPod and

      Only be acceptable to assume “techbros” are one of the last holdouts of fifties era masculinity, harassing women out of their domain. I just don’t buy it. We should be able to acknowledge other possible reasons without being accused of forwarding misogynistic stereotypes. /

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    3. Embrace the Void Pod‏ @ETVPod Mar 7
      Replying to @LadyLibertyCunt @docamitay and

      I’ve listened to your perspective and found common ground where possible. I do not assume anything unreasonable I don’t think. I don’t know how I would have responded on the inside of Damore’s HR case. I don’t think google relished firing him.

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    4. Cool Catfish Emo Fam‏ @LadyLibertyCunt Mar 7
      Replying to @ETVPod @docamitay and

      I agree. The hyper reactionary SJWs at Google forced Google’s hand. This is what I’m concerned with, and the seemingly endless supply of people who agree people who make arguments like me are nazis. http://slatestarcodex.com/2017/08/07/contra-grant-on-exaggerated-differences/ …pic.twitter.com/GCZdgh2qlz

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    5. Jody Tomchishen‏ @SkepticalJody Mar 7
      Replying to @LadyLibertyCunt @ETVPod and

      You are poisoning the well by already calling their reaction hyper, and implicating that they forced Google. Is it possible that their response was rationally justified?

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    6. Cool Catfish Emo Fam‏ @LadyLibertyCunt Mar 7
      Replying to @SkepticalJody @ETVPod and

      How is it rationally justified to call Damore a nazi, and his arguments fascist? Of course they forced google, people were threatening Damore physically, and threatening to quit.

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    7. Cool Catfish Emo Fam‏ @LadyLibertyCunt Mar 7
      Replying to @LadyLibertyCunt @SkepticalJody and

      I don’t even know where to begin arguing with someone who doesn’t recognize those messages were hysterically overboard. It seems like insanity.

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    8. Jody Tomchishen‏ @SkepticalJody Mar 7
      Replying to @LadyLibertyCunt @ETVPod and

      The problem isn't with these particular people. Not everyone reacts well. But you can't paint all of the reactions with such a broad brush. I don't think these responses represent the general outcry against Damore.

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    9. Cool Catfish Emo Fam‏ @LadyLibertyCunt Mar 7
      Replying to @SkepticalJody @ETVPod and

      @JamesADamore was just at PSU with @peterboghossian @HeatherEHeying and @HPluckrose. They invited all gender studies profs, who didn’t show. Protesters stood up, cried nazi. And one pushed over their sound equipment. For making the same arguments we are.https://youtu.be/kh2equGCBhw 

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    10. Embrace the Void Pod‏ @ETVPod Mar 7
      Replying to @LadyLibertyCunt @SkepticalJody and

      Oh come on. Some people didn't like it and so left and one was a dick and knocked some equipment over? This is not a massive conspiracy to silence people. That speech seemed to continue fine, right?

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 7
      Replying to @ETVPod @LadyLibertyCunt and

      No, most people don't want to silence those who say gender differences exist. This is obvious to people not ideologically-motivated to deny it. The threats which ranged from grenades to bricks to shitty diapers came from a small number of zealots. Tho the ideas have power.

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        2. Embrace the Void Pod‏ @ETVPod Mar 7
          Replying to @HPluckrose @LadyLibertyCunt and

          Glad to hear that it is also your experience that the vast majority of people are not reacting violently to these factual claims.

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        3. Cool Catfish Emo Fam‏ @LadyLibertyCunt Mar 7
          Replying to @ETVPod @HPluckrose and

          I guess I’d put it like this. These discussions with you are gems, and atypical. The face of the social justice movement is not of reasoned dialogue, but of protest. Rarely do I see SJWs defending their claims with more than unsubstantiated cries of bigotry, and shaming.

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        4. Embrace the Void Pod‏ @ETVPod Mar 7
          Replying to @LadyLibertyCunt @HPluckrose and

          Setting aside how accurate that is, if you believe that, it would behoove you to point people my way for the sake of good dialogue, and not just try to convince me there are some fringe bad actors on all sides. Help me help people argue better.

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        5. Cool Catfish Emo Fam‏ @LadyLibertyCunt Mar 7
          Replying to @ETVPod @HPluckrose and

          @ETVPod meet @HPluckrose. I’d love to hear you two discuss PoMo, identity politics, gender differences, social justice, and music.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Embrace the Void Pod‏ @ETVPod Mar 7
          Replying to @LadyLibertyCunt @HPluckrose and

          @tmamone tried to put us together a little bit ago but it didn’t work out. But I am always up for a chat.

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 7
          Replying to @ETVPod @LadyLibertyCunt and

          Ohhh. That was you. I remember now. Thank you but no.

          3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        8. Cool Catfish Emo Fam‏ @LadyLibertyCunt Mar 7
          Replying to @HPluckrose @ETVPod and

          Well this is a bit embarrassing. My claim has been, like the gender studies profs at PSU, too few social justice advocates are willing to defend their side, electing to shame and boycott their critics. Is there a particular reason you won’t argue with ETV, or just busy?

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        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 7
          Replying to @LadyLibertyCunt @ETVPod and

          We have tried before with frustrating results. I can only talk to people if they address what I am actually saying. Disagreement is fine. Persistent (deliberate?) misunderstanding and point-missing just make it a waste of time. It's OK. There are other people to talk to.

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        1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 7
          Replying to @HPluckrose @ETVPod and

          Have to remember we were there in the first place coz Damore said this and Google got a lot of pressure to fire him & did so. It's certainly worth being concerned about and countering.

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