My point is we need to distinguish between the actual limiting of free speech and the human right to protest a known idea someone find repugnant. I'm not defending their actions! But the conversation seems flawed.
Of course. I wonder if there have been more of them from good actors than bad tho? We've seen quite a few here, mostly from Islamists in the last few years. I really hope they are not effective.
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Well if you look at government spending or disruption of our daily lives, thoughts, I would say it has some non zero effectiveness. I'm thankful you've entertained my terrible rambling thoughts on this. I hear "free speech" so much it feels like a disservice to our past. 1/
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I'll take a closer look at the boundary of shutting down the act of speech because we have grown as a society. Is there an acceptable disruptive protest? I'd like to see those questions answered by people much smarter than I but probably they already have been.
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You can disrupt ideas without disrupting another person's right to speak or right to listen. Security needs to get active, trespassing charges laid and fingerprints taken. If people have faith in their actions, they should insist on paying the stated social costs of them.
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Which they do. Plenty of these people are arrested or ostracized or face some societal punishment. That is a exactly how our system works and I find it to be a correct system more often than not. It is our willingness to vilify protests and their utility.
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We have to keep in mind many protestors are indoctrinated kids doing the work of older ideologues. I want events to go off but also don't want to ruin a kid's life. tough to get both accomplished.
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Yes! A very difficult dilemma. Our need for punishment is much more pronounced than our ability to empathize which is a huge cause of friction. Leaving the door open for a historically useful tool (disruptive protest) ,with societal punishment as a reward, seems fair to me.
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Fair commentary and gave me some stuff to think on. Thanks for the chat!
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) to delineate what is a violation of free speech.