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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Rick von SLAYger‏ @RickVonJaeger Mar 6
      Replying to @HPluckrose @alexsimonelis

      you mean if you define things scientifically, wow, you can address anything scientifically, wowee. wowzers. holy cow, stop the presses, the atheists have done it again. how did they get so smart these guys.

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 6
      Replying to @RickVonJaeger @OldSaintRiot @alexsimonelis

      I don't know what that means. I know we don't always have to look at God according to theological and philosophical assumptions. Don't worry. There are still plenty of books that do if that's all you want. Centuries of them.

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    3. Alex Simonelis‏ @alexsimonelis Mar 6
      Replying to @HPluckrose @OldSaintRiot

      I think we'll end up disagreeing here. The ultimate tool of science generally is math proof. There is no proof that God exists, neither that He doesn't. Less strongly, evidence, but both sides look at the same facts as see them as evidence for opposite conclusions.

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 6
      Replying to @alexsimonelis @OldSaintRiot

      Well, no, proving a negative is impossible. That's why we wait for evidence before considering something a serious proposition.

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    5. Alex Simonelis‏ @alexsimonelis Mar 6
      Replying to @HPluckrose @OldSaintRiot

      That's a myth. Math, for example, abounds in negative proofs. One can prove that 1.0 has no immediately adjacent real number in a few seconds. Also possible in physics, ...

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 6
      Replying to @alexsimonelis @OldSaintRiot

      How? By showing something positive? How do you show that a being with no real description or location does not exist? You can't. There could be mermaids in some part of the universe. We can't prove there aren't.

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    7. Alex Simonelis‏ @alexsimonelis Mar 6
      Replying to @HPluckrose @OldSaintRiot

      1-How do you prove no immed-adj number next to 1.o? By contradiction - happy to show you if you like. 2-How to show God's non-existence? That's a problem for whoever makes that asserion. Onus is always on the asserter, neg or pos.

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 6
      Replying to @alexsimonelis @OldSaintRiot

      Is the bonus of proof not on the person making the positive claim? But it doesn't matter much. If no-one claims a god to exist, I don't need to question that. If a claim is unfalsifiable, it cannot become a hypothesis.

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    9. Alex Simonelis‏ @alexsimonelis Mar 6
      Replying to @HPluckrose @OldSaintRiot

      Onus of proof is on the person who makes ANY claim, positive or negative or ... Atheists asserting God's non-existence are not exempt. Don't want to have to prove it? Then don't make that claim.

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    10. AxeGrrl  🎸‏ @Axe_Grrl Mar 6
      Replying to @alexsimonelis @HPluckrose @OldSaintRiot

      I'm an atheist and I don't think I've ever met a fellow atheist who makes this assertion. Most of us simply say 'No need to disprove something that hasn't been established to begin with'.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 6
      Replying to @Axe_Grrl @alexsimonelis @OldSaintRiot

      Precisely. Remain open to possibility. It would be great if there were a good god, particularly if it could make us survive the deaths of our brains and go on living, providing it didn't torture anyone for not knowing about it, but until some evidence, better to live as tho not

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