How? By showing something positive? How do you show that a being with no real description or location does not exist? You can't. There could be mermaids in some part of the universe. We can't prove there aren't.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @OldSaintRiot
1-How do you prove no immed-adj number next to 1.o? By contradiction - happy to show you if you like. 2-How to show God's non-existence? That's a problem for whoever makes that asserion. Onus is always on the asserter, neg or pos.
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Replying to @alexsimonelis @OldSaintRiot
Is the bonus of proof not on the person making the positive claim? But it doesn't matter much. If no-one claims a god to exist, I don't need to question that. If a claim is unfalsifiable, it cannot become a hypothesis.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @OldSaintRiot
Onus of proof is on the person who makes ANY claim, positive or negative or ... Atheists asserting God's non-existence are not exempt. Don't want to have to prove it? Then don't make that claim.
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Replying to @alexsimonelis @OldSaintRiot
I'll just say it's not a serious proposition until there's some evidence for it. That will do. No need to be claiming to know things that can't be known. When it comes down to more specific religious claims, these can be disproven.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @OldSaintRiot
Ah, evidence. What I said before: we'll both look at the same facts and claim them as evidence for our opposite beliefs. Take a look at Wheeler's delayed choice experiment and see whether it isn't "magical". Cheers!
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Replying to @alexsimonelis @OldSaintRiot
But God isn't a serious proposition yet. Just say we don't know the causes of everything. It's so easy. You can keep magic as an option, obviously, but I'm voting against it because every mystery solved so far has turned out not to be not magic. (Tim MInchin)
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Replying to @HPluckrose @OldSaintRiot
Very serious, as some of history's greatest minds have shown. Have a look at Wheeler's : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheeler%27s_delayed_choice_experiment … See if you think it's possible, other than by design.
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Replying to @alexsimonelis @OldSaintRiot
The greatest minds do not necessarily apply their minds to reality. Alchemy isn't real despite Newton thinking it was. I don't know how this is possible. Imagining a designer seems like something a designing species would do. We are necessarily limited in our understanding.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @OldSaintRiot
Humans are imperfect, including Newton, but still one of the greatest minds ever. Godel (recent) was one of the smartest humans EVER, producing a Proof that is amazing. He was a believer. You'll find smarties on both sides.
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Which is why it doesn't prove anything. Our intuitions tell us there is a god. Religiosity is pan cultural. My daughter invented one when she was 3. There are some good hypotheses about why we do this but we may never know.
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Replying to @alexsimonelis @OldSaintRiot
That's what I just said! For a long time, the smartest people thought headaches in women were caused by the uterus wandering about.
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