Well, his thing was looking at religious claims from a scientific perspective. But we can't expect people not to talk about their views just coz they have oomph. "No, Oprah, you should not speak of God existing. You are not an expert in religion & have many fans.' Doesn't happen. https://twitter.com/alexsimonelis/status/971204927711309825 …
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I think we'll end up disagreeing here. The ultimate tool of science generally is math proof. There is no proof that God exists, neither that He doesn't. Less strongly, evidence, but both sides look at the same facts as see them as evidence for opposite conclusions.
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Well, no, proving a negative is impossible. That's why we wait for evidence before considering something a serious proposition.
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That's a myth. Math, for example, abounds in negative proofs. One can prove that 1.0 has no immediately adjacent real number in a few seconds. Also possible in physics, ...
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How? By showing something positive? How do you show that a being with no real description or location does not exist? You can't. There could be mermaids in some part of the universe. We can't prove there aren't.
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1-How do you prove no immed-adj number next to 1.o? By contradiction - happy to show you if you like. 2-How to show God's non-existence? That's a problem for whoever makes that asserion. Onus is always on the asserter, neg or pos.
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Is the bonus of proof not on the person making the positive claim? But it doesn't matter much. If no-one claims a god to exist, I don't need to question that. If a claim is unfalsifiable, it cannot become a hypothesis.
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Onus of proof is on the person who makes ANY claim, positive or negative or ... Atheists asserting God's non-existence are not exempt. Don't want to have to prove it? Then don't make that claim.
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I'll just say it's not a serious proposition until there's some evidence for it. That will do. No need to be claiming to know things that can't be known. When it comes down to more specific religious claims, these can be disproven.
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that's pretty obvious
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Well, good! Is there something you think we disagree on then or not?
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definitely
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OK, you've reached my three tweet limit for people not actually saying anything so I'll leave you here. Have a nice evening.
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you too
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