What crowd?
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Also, I am in my right to question as your profile lists you as a "pragmatic Humanist" and what I am saying is that not only do I see those ideas as opposites, but also I don't see some of the views as being aligned with egalitarian Humanism.
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Replying to @BarryLyndon34
Then we might be using terms differently. My pragmatism does not conflict in any way with liberalism or egalitarianism. I just want to get there using methods that work rather than revolution.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Interesting discussion. I'll let it rest there. Perhaps we just have a different understanding of Pragmatism. Because I see it, Pragmatism has more in common with Postmodernism than it does the Enlightenment or Humanism. But I digress. Goodnight.
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Replying to @BarryLyndon34
Yes. This is where
@Intrinsic29 and I use the word differently. I mean 'sensible, reasonable, practical, workable solutions such as I argued for here: https://areomagazine.com/2017/09/27/an-argument-for-a-liberal-and-rational-approach-to-transgender-rights-and-inclusion/ … But he uses it to mean making things work according to an ideology. Like Peterson does. Like the pomos.2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes -
Replying to @HPluckrose @BarryLyndon34
Yeah, I'm ok with both definitions but epistemic pragmatism values the utility of propositions over their actual truth value and usually entails the belief that actual truth can't be obtained.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @BarryLyndon34
JBP also calls his epistemology pragmatism though his version is even worse (just replacing the definition of "truth" with his version of utility).
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Replying to @Intrinsic29 @HPluckrose
Kevin, again, that's exactly how I understand it too. Which is not what Steven Pinker is voicing support for in his new book when he rejects someone like Nietzsche?
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Replying to @BarryLyndon34 @HPluckrose
I haven't read it yet. No spoilers. :p
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I haven't either. Paging @salonium
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