These are not the same thing. Some programs might be in keeping with the values of the Enlightenment and some might not.https://twitter.com/BarryLyndon34/status/970856396278378496 …
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Also, I am in my right to question as your profile lists you as a "pragmatic Humanist" and what I am saying is that not only do I see those ideas as opposites, but also I don't see some of the views as being aligned with egalitarian Humanism.
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Then we might be using terms differently. My pragmatism does not conflict in any way with liberalism or egalitarianism. I just want to get there using methods that work rather than revolution.
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Interesting discussion. I'll let it rest there. Perhaps we just have a different understanding of Pragmatism. Because I see it, Pragmatism has more in common with Postmodernism than it does the Enlightenment or Humanism. But I digress. Goodnight.
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Yes. This is where
@Intrinsic29 and I use the word differently. I mean 'sensible, reasonable, practical, workable solutions such as I argued for here: https://areomagazine.com/2017/09/27/an-argument-for-a-liberal-and-rational-approach-to-transgender-rights-and-inclusion/ … But he uses it to mean making things work according to an ideology. Like Peterson does. Like the pomos. -
Yeah, I'm ok with both definitions but epistemic pragmatism values the utility of propositions over their actual truth value and usually entails the belief that actual truth can't be obtained.
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Maybe I'll stop using that then.
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JBP also calls his epistemology pragmatism though his version is even worse (just replacing the definition of "truth" with his version of utility).
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Kevin, again, that's exactly how I understand it too. Which is not what Steven Pinker is voicing support for in his new book when he rejects someone like Nietzsche?
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