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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 5
      Replying to @ConceptualJames @GodDoesnt @colwight

      We don't as far as I can tell! It is a semantic issue. I'd really rather not conflate social constructivism (currently understood as making shit up) with accepting the imperfect and provisional nature of knowledge because the former is the problem and the latter the solution.

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    2. (((Colin Wight)))‏ @colwight Mar 5
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

      The Social construction of knowledge is not about making stuff up Helen, and if we are going to engage those attacking science, we don't do ourselves any favours by mischaracterizing their position. And semantic slips can leave the door open.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 5
      Replying to @colwight @GodDoesnt

      I'm not sure we're talking to the same people, Colin.

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    4. (((Colin Wight)))‏ @colwight Mar 5
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

      Perhaps, but no social constructivist I'm aware of thinks it means just making stuff up.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 5
      Replying to @colwight @GodDoesnt

      Lucky you. I encounter them all. the. time. I'd have no problem at all with people who mean 'provisional knowledge' or 'collected by humans according to socially developed methods & conveyed in language' by 'socially constructed' and can't imagine why anyone would. That's true.

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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 5
          Replying to @HPluckrose @colwight @GodDoesnt

          I think we're just talking past each other and should leave it here. I will try to remember to tag you in next time someone tells me science is just made up by straight, white men to oppress women & other minorities.

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        3. (((Colin Wight)))‏ @colwight Mar 5
          Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

          I don't mind being tagged but I've stopped responding to lunatics. But social constructivism, particularly in relation to knowledge, is a very serious philosophical, and sociological tradition. The fact people misuse it shouldn't lead us to ignore its insights.

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 5
          Replying to @colwight @GodDoesnt

          I'm less interested in the serious philosophical & sociological tradition than what is happening right now in the world in relation to social constructivism, particularly blank-slatism. We're just not talking about the same things.

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        5. (((Colin Wight)))‏ @colwight Mar 5
          Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

          Well these ideas are coming from somewhere. So the point, if we want to get things right, is not to engage in a blanket rejection. That's as foolhardy as them saying science is a deterministic form of religion.

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        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 5
          Replying to @colwight @GodDoesnt

          I absolutely don't reject the idea that knowledge is provisional and that knowledge is obtained through methods invented by humans and conveyed through language. I just don't call that 'social constructivism.' That's not what is meant in the conversations I'm having.

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