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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Jody Tomchishen‏ @SkepticalJody Mar 5
      Replying to @SkepticalJody @HPluckrose and

      You say there is a postmodernist false dichotomy. I don't agree with you that this is a real postmodernist position, if there even is a single postmodernist position, but even then, I am not even sure the dichotomy is a false one. At least it isn't obvious.

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    2. Jody Tomchishen‏ @SkepticalJody Mar 5
      Replying to @SkepticalJody @HPluckrose and

      4) Your conception of modernism itself is artificial, in that I think there are going to be disagreements about what modernist projects have worked, or to what extent change is necessary or not. Your argument seems to be, more change is bad. But is that necessarily the case?

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 5
      Replying to @SkepticalJody @amiguello1 and

      We addressed what we mean by modernism and of course, there will be disagreement. Forever. This is productive. That is not the argument. The argument is that liberalism is inherently progressive and produces positive change.

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    4. Jody Tomchishen‏ @SkepticalJody Mar 5
      Replying to @HPluckrose @amiguello1 and

      The tension in the article is between good vs bad progress. You seem to think postmodernists want progress of the bad kind, but it isn't clear in your article why it is bad. You think they are wrong about science - though, as I have said, that depends on the postmodernist.

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 5
      Replying to @SkepticalJody @amiguello1 and

      Well, I don't think we can make it clearer than that. We already spent 10,000 words on the problem with postmodernism and premodernism. If you still don't see what we are saying it is and why it's bad, I certainly won't be able to explain it on Twitter.

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    6. Jody Tomchishen‏ @SkepticalJody Mar 5
      Replying to @HPluckrose @amiguello1 and

      The quantity of words doesn't matter if the quality is bad. Look, I read your article. It isn't clear to me. Take the criticism however you like, but there it is.

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 5
      Replying to @SkepticalJody @amiguello1 and

      I'll have to take it that your reading comprehension is poor. It seems perfectly clear to everyone else. Some disagree with it but they don't claim we didn't mention the problems with postmodernism.

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    8. Jody Tomchishen‏ @SkepticalJody Mar 5
      Replying to @HPluckrose @amiguello1 and

      I never said you didn't mention problems with postmodernism. I am claiming that the problems you raised about postmodernism, does not adequately support the articles thesis.

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 5
      Replying to @SkepticalJody @amiguello1 and

      Why don't you write something? You're being far too vague for me to respond to. It';s all 'but why is postmodernism worse than liberalism' when we set out our rationale for that in many words. Please go away now.

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    10. AML‏ @amiguello1 Mar 5
      Replying to @HPluckrose @SkepticalJody and

      I was expecting a more fruitful discussion than this 😅 But yeah I'd be interested in written criticisms of the essays. This exchange was too vague for me to understand the arguments being made.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 5
      Replying to @amiguello1 @SkepticalJody and

      Me too. It's just 'but why?' And 'It's not clear.' I'd have to go through and tweet the whole thing point by point. I'm not going to go through and tweet the whole thing point by point.

      9:03 AM - 5 Mar 2018
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        2. Jody Tomchishen‏ @SkepticalJody Mar 5
          Replying to @HPluckrose @amiguello1 and

          I think it was more than just "but why"... no one said twitter was a perfect medium for communication, but I am trying.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 5
          Replying to @SkepticalJody @amiguello1 and

          Well, I have to go out now. If I have not explained things clearly enough for you in the essays I have sent you, I will not be able to. That is the best I can do.

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