1) You seem to want to lump together a bunch of people and call them postmodernists, as if they have a unified conception for the kind of change they see necessary. I don't think that is possible.
I'll have to take it that your reading comprehension is poor. It seems perfectly clear to everyone else. Some disagree with it but they don't claim we didn't mention the problems with postmodernism.
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I don't know what else to do. I'd only be saying the same thing in tweet form or screencaps.
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I never said you didn't mention problems with postmodernism. I am claiming that the problems you raised about postmodernism, does not adequately support the articles thesis.
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Why don't you write something? You're being far too vague for me to respond to. It';s all 'but why is postmodernism worse than liberalism' when we set out our rationale for that in many words. Please go away now.
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The problems that we raised with postmodernism are the reason we think postmodernism is bad. The benefits that we mentioned of modernism is why we think it is good & much better. I thought this was obvious but if you still don't understand, I'm just going to have to give up.
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I will try one more attempt at clarification, and then I will leave you alone. At one point, in the article we are discussing, you guys mention that postmodernists "claimed to be continuing the modernity project", but the only point you raise to object to this is the following:
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"many of those structures and institutions are, in fact, products of Modernity that the majority seeks to incrementally correct and ultimately protect." I read this as, postmodernists want to radically change institutions, and that is bad because those institutions are modernist
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1) That's not the only point we make against postmodern views of progress. 2) That is a point, yes. Postmodernists want to radically change institutions that most people want to keep and improve. I explain this more in the first of the two essays on PoMo I sent you.
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eg Human rights. We'd like to keep those but also improve on them. Democracy. We'd like to keep that but (in the UK anyway) make it more representative. Science. We'd like to keep that and keep improving its methods. etc.
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