But even the knowledge itself is socially constructed. If there were no humans they'd be no knowledge.
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Exactly, so we can't ever say that our socially constructed knowledge of the world is 100% right. And what makes it possibly wrong is that it's not identical to what is. What there is would still be as it even if we had no knowledge of it. That's why knowledge isn't what is.
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See, we don't disagree except on the word. I'll use knowledge but accept that it is provisional and not necessarily or even probably identical to what is.
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Well now we don't even disagree on the word. Now you're using knowledge as not synonymous of what is, you are acknowledging it (knowledge) is socially constructed. There's nothing to fear here. Knowledge can be socially constructed without destroying the world as it is.
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No, I'm not. I'm acknowledging it as provisional. We know the earth orbits the sun.This knowledge remains provisional but It was not brought into being by society. It is constructed from methods formed by society of getting at what is which will always be imperfect. Will that do?
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In short, I am not going round saying that established facts are socially constructed because by this, people mean that we made it up and different cultures can make it up differently and be equally right. The sun is actually a chariot containing a god.
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You might want to revisit Wittgenstein on private language games.
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I'm pretty sure I don't.
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Now therein lies both the problem and the admission of the problem. I'll leave it here.
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