In the academic and social justice left, 'stay in your lane', 'speech is violence', knowledge is culturally constructed, gender differences are culturally constructed etc *do* come from postmodernism but I agree most people don't know that. It's just normal now. https://twitter.com/cultofdusty/status/970421801472884736 …
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So what do you think about, eg, trans women being included on Labour's women-only shortlists. Are you in favour, and if so on what basis? I'm going to guess you probably think they shouldn't have women-only shortlists haha. But still.
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I do think they shouldn't have women-only shortlists but if they are going to have them, they should definitely include trans women. If cis women are still discriminated against (I'm not at all sure we are), it's way less than trans women are.
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On what basis would you say theyre women. A lot of it seems like just politeness in accepting their self-definitions to me - no? I know the answer's prob in the article, which I will read later, I promise. btw I'm making no conviction-based claims - Im all Qs and few As on this.
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I'm not bothering with definitions of woman. That only bogs the conversation down. I don't think its just reproductive systems nor do I think self-identification is reliable. Do read article.
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I will - I'm sure I'll learn a lot as always. I'm puzzled though, because I'm not clear whether your argument for trans women as women is science-based, political (ie you accept their definitions), or a combination, or something else. I'll read the article.

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I don't argue for trans women being women. This is beside the point and conversation stalls on it all the time. It entirely depends on how you define 'woman' and, however you do, there is biological basis to trans identity & a liberal imperative to let people be themselves.
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I think that's very sensible. Identity politics was always going to lead to this but, well, we're locked into it now and the zealots want blood. I think the answer, once again, is to just throw my hands up and despair. Oh, the humanity. Have a good day.
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