Oh, for goodness sake. I'll have to disagree with you very strongly here. See the metastudies on this. We must be able to bring biological differences in. Women are not damaged by being presented with biological facts and its demeaning to suggest we are. (I still adore you too)
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I’d be more than happy to see proof of scientific consensus that women are far more neurotic than men.
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Replying to @Claire_Voltaire @HPluckrose and
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2031866/ … I think Damore has said that one thing he would have done differently if he had to write the memo again is not use the word "neuroticism," bc in everyday speech it has a negative/judgmental connotation that it doesn't in scientific terminology.
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Replying to @CathyYoung63 @HPluckrose and
The language doesn’t bother me. I don’t believe it’s backed by scientific consensus. From what I’ve seen this wouldn’t be a strong argument.
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Replying to @Claire_Voltaire @CathyYoung63 and
It is tho. Replicated over and over again. Women consistently report feeling more anxiety and stress than men. They're probably not lying about this.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63 and
Is it biological? How are these studies conducted and does social environment play any role?
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Replying to @Claire_Voltaire @CathyYoung63 and
You've been sent many of them. Have a read and see. But even if you continue to believe cognitive and psychological gender differences not to exist, surely you can agree that those of us who think they do should be able to join conversation without firing?
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Replying to @HPluckrose @M_Methuselah and
2. Is the source of difference between two large populations important to the issue? You are discussing data. The data are the data.
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Replying to @annap442 @M_Methuselah and
I am discussing the source of difference.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @M_Methuselah and
That's what I get for wading into the middle... apologies. Fwiw, I suspect that untangling the nature vs nurture would get very granular. Data suggest both effects at gross level. The degree of influence of one or a subset of one (e.g. family vs society) highly variable?
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No apologies. Please feel free to wade! I enjoy your wading! Yes, I absolutely agree. Steven Pinker addresses this in the introduction of Blank Slate.
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