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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 5

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Antoine Kerbérénès

    Not really. Unless you want to redefine knowledge as 'belief.' The earth still does orbit the sun whether it is a norm of your time & place to know this or not. Cultures who thought they knew something different didn't have different knowledge. They were wrong.https://twitter.com/AnZorn/status/970606951095824384 …

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    Antoine Kerbérénès @AnZorn
    Replying to @HPluckrose
    But can’t we acknowledge that a type of knowledge (or a norm of knowledge) is culturally constructed AND that one can still argue for its superiority to others types or norms of knowledge ? Isn’t it what western scientific tradition mostly achieved?
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      2. Richard Heathfield  🇬🇧‏ @rjheathfield Mar 5
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        A bad example, alas. Whether the earth orbits the sun, the sun orbits the earth, or they orbit their common centre of mass (or indeed some other point) depends entirely on your frame of reference. Relativity is surprisingly post-modernist in places (but in a *good* way!).

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 5
        Replying to @rjheathfield

        There are truths about this.

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      4. Richard Heathfield  🇬🇧‏ @rjheathfield Mar 5
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Sorry, you lost me. I should clarify that I'm not saying you're wrong, only that your specific "earth orbiting the sun" example was... uh... what's the word? Ah! 'Problematic'! 😀

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      2. Antoine Kerbérénès‏ @AnZorn Mar 5
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Knowledge is true belief. What is truth? A nice way to see it is robustness to experimentation. Note that other cultures could have formalized differently an observably equivalent belief. Does not seem to occur often however, so the construction seem to be fairly constrained.1/2

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      3. Antoine Kerbérénès‏ @AnZorn Mar 5
        Replying to @AnZorn @HPluckrose

        2/2. I see truth criteria or methodology as the cultural norms that science as we know it as imposed on its own construction (although sometime other norms prevails which can lead to error). What I argue is that there is ground for preference for these norms over others.

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