He created a hostile work environment. I believe this part of the memo is the part that was deemed most damaging: “women tend to be more social, more artistic, and more prone to neuroticism (higher anxiety, lower stress tolerance).” It’s not a scientific consensus and the 1/2
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Oh, for goodness sake. I'll have to disagree with you very strongly here. See the metastudies on this. We must be able to bring biological differences in. Women are not damaged by being presented with biological facts and its demeaning to suggest we are. (I still adore you too)
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I’d be more than happy to see proof of scientific consensus that women are far more neurotic than men.
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Replying to @Claire_Voltaire @HPluckrose and
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2031866/ … I think Damore has said that one thing he would have done differently if he had to write the memo again is not use the word "neuroticism," bc in everyday speech it has a negative/judgmental connotation that it doesn't in scientific terminology.
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Replying to @CathyYoung63 @HPluckrose and
The language doesn’t bother me. I don’t believe it’s backed by scientific consensus. From what I’ve seen this wouldn’t be a strong argument.
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Replying to @Claire_Voltaire @CathyYoung63 and
It is tho. Replicated over and over again. Women consistently report feeling more anxiety and stress than men. They're probably not lying about this.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63 and
Is it biological? How are these studies conducted and does social environment play any role?
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Replying to @Claire_Voltaire @CathyYoung63 and
You've been sent many of them. Have a read and see. But even if you continue to believe cognitive and psychological gender differences not to exist, surely you can agree that those of us who think they do should be able to join conversation without firing?
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Replying to @HPluckrose @M_Methuselah and
3. Wrongful termination is a different issue and subject to laws and precedent. Companies write employee codes of conduct expressly to defend their business model and hire/fire in their best biz interest. Very dangerous to take that away.
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Replying to @annap442 @M_Methuselah and
Different issue. I am interested in culture and how it makes certain values & beliefs within business' best interests to mandate. eg when my mother wrote memos saying women should be able to take accountancy exams, this was very much against the bank's code of conduct & values.
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I am less interested in the legal right of businesses to enforce certain views, whether its that women should stay in the secretarial pool or men & women are psychologically identical, than in the cultural norms which make this a dominant view, dissent from which must be punished
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