She's accepting his own admission of harassment, no?
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Replying to @CathyYoung63 @cheomit
The disagreement is whether it counts as harassment or not. I don't know if it can be prosecuted in the US. My daughter successfully prosecuted someone who persistently stalked her online & turned up at her work despite her being very clear this was unwanted & frightening.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63
Again - I'm not defending Phil. I dislike what I saw there. It may not rise to illegal, but still seems like there's more going on; and he's certainly said this isn't the first exchange. I was only considering your (much?) earlier response to accusations he's dicey to engage.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63
Apologies - it seemed like you took earlier accusations (possibly quite a while back) seriously before any hard evidence was necessarily available to you. Again, my interpretation, please correct me if I'm wrong (because my whole inquiry rests on it).
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Replying to @cheomit @CathyYoung63
Hard evidence has been available to me for some time. I have not been at liberty to talk about it. What I responded to publicly was what Phil himself admitted to.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63
Sure, your replies have made that clear, but my questions is, was it available since you *first* took the accusations seriously? If yes, my *entire* concern dies on the spot.
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Replying to @cheomit @CathyYoung63
No, it wasn't. When people I trusted messaged me to warn me against talking to Phil because he did this, I took their warnings seriously because of my knowledge of them as honest people but I did not have evidence they were true and so did not claim to know this.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63
Sure, and that's exactly how a reasonable person should react, far as I'm concerned. But again, it seems problematically limited. On that standard, you can't take seriously a mere acquaintance at a conference - perhaps a more dangerous situation.
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And you're stuck waiting for a criminal to admit wrongdoing, be convicted, or at least have very hard evidence exposed, before you can take the accusations seriously (and if acquitted, you have to conclude they're innocent), no?
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Yes, exactly. It sucks. People get away with shit. But the alternative is believing everybody guilty of everything they are accused of without hard evidence or an admission and that would suck more.
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