Skip to content
By using Twitter’s services you agree to our Cookies Use. We and our partners operate globally and use cookies, including for analytics, personalisation, and ads.
  • Home Home Home, current page.
  • About

Saved searches

  • Remove
  • In this conversation
    Verified accountProtected Tweets @
Suggested users
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @
  • Language: English
    • Bahasa Indonesia
    • Bahasa Melayu
    • Català
    • Čeština
    • Dansk
    • Deutsch
    • English UK
    • Español
    • Filipino
    • Français
    • Hrvatski
    • Italiano
    • Magyar
    • Nederlands
    • Norsk
    • Polski
    • Português
    • Română
    • Slovenčina
    • Suomi
    • Svenska
    • Tiếng Việt
    • Türkçe
    • Ελληνικά
    • Български език
    • Русский
    • Српски
    • Українська мова
    • עִבְרִית
    • العربية
    • فارسی
    • मराठी
    • हिन्दी
    • বাংলা
    • ગુજરાતી
    • தமிழ்
    • ಕನ್ನಡ
    • ภาษาไทย
    • 한국어
    • 日本語
    • 简体中文
    • 繁體中文
  • Have an account? Log in
    Have an account?
    · Forgot password?

    New to Twitter?
    Sign up
HPluckrose's profile
Helen Pluckrose
Helen Pluckrose
Helen Pluckrose
@HPluckrose

Tweets

Helen Pluckrose

@HPluckrose

Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

London.
areomagazine.com/author/hpluckr…
Joined August 2011

Tweets

  • © 2018 Twitter
  • About
  • Help Center
  • Terms
  • Privacy policy
  • Cookies
  • Ads info
Dismiss
Previous
Next

Go to a person's profile

Saved searches

  • Remove
  • In this conversation
    Verified accountProtected Tweets @
Suggested users
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @

Promote this Tweet

Block

  • Tweet with a location

    You can add location information to your Tweets, such as your city or precise location, from the web and via third-party applications. You always have the option to delete your Tweet location history. Learn more

    Your lists

    Create a new list


    Under 100 characters, optional

    Privacy

    Copy link to Tweet

    Embed this Tweet

    Embed this Video

    Add this Tweet to your website by copying the code below. Learn more

    Add this video to your website by copying the code below. Learn more

    Hmm, there was a problem reaching the server.

    By embedding Twitter content in your website or app, you are agreeing to the Twitter Developer Agreement and Developer Policy.

    Preview

    Why you're seeing this ad

    Log in to Twitter

    · Forgot password?
    Don't have an account? Sign up »

    Sign up for Twitter

    Not on Twitter? Sign up, tune into the things you care about, and get updates as they happen.

    Sign up
    Have an account? Log in »

    Two-way (sending and receiving) short codes:

    Country Code For customers of
    United States 40404 (any)
    Canada 21212 (any)
    United Kingdom 86444 Vodafone, Orange, 3, O2
    Brazil 40404 Nextel, TIM
    Haiti 40404 Digicel, Voila
    Ireland 51210 Vodafone, O2
    India 53000 Bharti Airtel, Videocon, Reliance
    Indonesia 89887 AXIS, 3, Telkomsel, Indosat, XL Axiata
    Italy 4880804 Wind
    3424486444 Vodafone
    » See SMS short codes for other countries

    Confirmation

     

    Welcome home!

    This timeline is where you’ll spend most of your time, getting instant updates about what matters to you.

    Tweets not working for you?

    Hover over the profile pic and click the Following button to unfollow any account.

    Say a lot with a little

    When you see a Tweet you love, tap the heart — it lets the person who wrote it know you shared the love.

    Spread the word

    The fastest way to share someone else’s Tweet with your followers is with a Retweet. Tap the icon to send it instantly.

    Join the conversation

    Add your thoughts about any Tweet with a Reply. Find a topic you’re passionate about, and jump right in.

    Learn the latest

    Get instant insight into what people are talking about now.

    Get more of what you love

    Follow more accounts to get instant updates about topics you care about.

    Find what's happening

    See the latest conversations about any topic instantly.

    Never miss a Moment

    Catch up instantly on the best stories happening as they unfold.

    1. Phil Torres‏ @xriskology Mar 2
      Replying to @HPluckrose @AtheistAdrian and

      Helen: You make several significant claims that are factually false. If this weren’t Twitter, I’d simply refute them point by point. For the nonce, could you substantiate any of your claims in the tweet below?pic.twitter.com/U7aJq0cSq5

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 2
      Replying to @xriskology @AtheistAdrian and

      I can't provide evidence of you emailing people insisting they respond to you about, say, penis hoaxes, no, because I don't have those emails. The evidence of you obsessing abt the same few ppl is all over your social media accounts. 1/2

      2 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 2
      Replying to @HPluckrose @xriskology and

      You yourself have admitted to be blocked by various people and from certain forums and called them snowflakes for not wanting to talk to you and then posted evidence of yourself threatening to go & sit in the front row of their workplace for two weeks.

      3 replies 1 retweet 9 likes
    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 2
      Replying to @HPluckrose @xriskology and

      If people are blocking you, ignoring you, asking you to leave them alone, seeking legal advice and threatening to call the police if you approach them in person, consider that your behaviour might be unwanted and threatening. How much clearer does 'No, leave me alone' have to be?

      2 replies 2 retweets 17 likes
    5. OA’s court appointed Judge Paul-oot-the Planet‏ @AtheistAdrian Mar 2
      Replying to @HPluckrose @xriskology and

      Where?? Where is this?? Stop just writing and point to instances of this. 1000+ tweets later and you keep repeating this. The best answer is “refer to your twitter feed.” K, thats what you want to get upset, but deafly silent on Krauss right? K, love the burden shifting,awesome

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 2
      Replying to @AtheistAdrian @xriskology and

      I don't know anything about Krauss. It's not hard.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. cheomit‏ @cheomit Mar 3
      Replying to @HPluckrose @AtheistAdrian and

      Doesn't it seem at all a problem that you appear to be using different standards of evidence here? You *believed* (and acted on) things about Phil based on what others told you; but you don't *know* about Krauss (despite at least equivalent evidence), so you withhold *belief*?

      4 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 3
      Replying to @cheomit

      No, I'm talking about Phil's email& social media history which are clearly visible to everyone. There's no suggestion someone else did this to set him up. He owns it. He just sees it as OK. Equivalent if Krauss admitted to forcing himself on women but didn't see it as wrong.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    9. cheomit‏ @cheomit Mar 3
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      cheomit Retweeted Helen Pluckrose

      That may be true now, sure. Again - I know nothing and this thing seems off (given it, I'm inclined to accept possibility of bad behaviour I can't see). But here (https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/969624985714216962?s=20 …), it sounds like you accepted the accusation of harassment (a crime) on testimony.

      cheomit added,

      Helen Pluckrose @HPluckrose
      Replying to @HPluckrose @xriskology and 3 others
      You yourself have admitted to be blocked by various people and from certain forums and called them snowflakes for not wanting to talk to you and then posted evidence of yourself threatening to go & sit in the front row of their workplace for two weeks.
      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Cathy Young‏Verified account @CathyYoung63 Mar 3
      Replying to @cheomit @HPluckrose

      She's accepting his own admission of harassment, no?

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 3
      Replying to @CathyYoung63 @cheomit

      The disagreement is whether it counts as harassment or not. I don't know if it can be prosecuted in the US. My daughter successfully prosecuted someone who persistently stalked her online & turned up at her work despite her being very clear this was unwanted & frightening.

      12:24 PM - 3 Mar 2018
      • 5 Likes
      • Fernando Gonzálezᴹᵒʳᵃˡᵉˢ 👻 D I V A 👻 Keiko Cathy Young Nick McLean
      3 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
        1. New conversation
        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 3
          Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63 @cheomit

          But prosecutable or not, is it reasonable to call a persistent attempt to contact someone who has asked you to stop, blocked you, sought legal protection & threatened to call the police which went on for months & included threats to sit in front row of class 'harassment?' Yes.

          2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 3
          Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63 @cheomit

          I think this would be immediately clear if the target was a woman. I remember Sargon getting accused of harassment for going to one of Sarkeesian's talks after having been very critical of her online. I don't think that counts as harassment, myself, but this certainly does.

          3 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
        4. Dorian‏ @dorianleakey Mar 3
          Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63 @cheomit

          I think Sargon has the sort of fans that go after people image witch hunty fashion, so that may be the difference. But it seems a bit like one group wants to call people snowflake but find clever and interesting ways to avoid criticism themselves.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 3
          Replying to @dorianleakey @CathyYoung63 @cheomit

          Quite possibly but Phil is also in witchhunty circles. We can be against witch hunting consistently Depends what we mean by 'snowflake'. This is less about accepting criticism & more about trying to prohibit certain speech, particularly in universities, because words do harm.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Dorian‏ @dorianleakey Mar 3
          Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63 @cheomit

          I will put it another way, I feel people find ways to make things that are very similar seem dissimilar and I think that's happening here. But you know more of the detail of this, but from the outside, this snapshot looks pretty bad.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 3
          Replying to @dorianleakey @CathyYoung63 @cheomit

          Could you be a bit more specific? I still don't know what you mean?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Dorian‏ @dorianleakey Mar 3
          Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63 @cheomit

          Perhaps PT got sensible responses when he first tried to criticise and that's why these repeated attempts to engage by him are seen as stalking, maybe they are as extreme as you say. But just from this snapshot it looks like they want an excuse not to respond and engage.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 3
          Replying to @dorianleakey @CathyYoung63 @cheomit

          I think this is good enough reason not to respond & engage but I also think you don't need one. Shld just be able to ask people to stop contacting you & they respect this. I've been dealing with someone like this for 18 months now. I don't need to justify wanting to be left alone

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        10. 5 more replies
        1. New conversation
        2. cheomit‏ @cheomit Mar 3
          Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63

          Again - I'm not defending Phil. I dislike what I saw there. It may not rise to illegal, but still seems like there's more going on; and he's certainly said this isn't the first exchange. I was only considering your (much?) earlier response to accusations he's dicey to engage.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 3
          Replying to @cheomit @CathyYoung63

          I don't understand the last sentence.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. cheomit‏ @cheomit Mar 3
          Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63

          Apologies - it seemed like you took earlier accusations (possibly quite a while back) seriously before any hard evidence was necessarily available to you. Again, my interpretation, please correct me if I'm wrong (because my whole inquiry rests on it).

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 3
          Replying to @cheomit @CathyYoung63

          Hard evidence has been available to me for some time. I have not been at liberty to talk about it. What I responded to publicly was what Phil himself admitted to.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. cheomit‏ @cheomit Mar 3
          Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63

          Sure, your replies have made that clear, but my questions is, was it available since you *first* took the accusations seriously? If yes, my *entire* concern dies on the spot.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 3
          Replying to @cheomit @CathyYoung63

          No, it wasn't. When people I trusted messaged me to warn me against talking to Phil because he did this, I took their warnings seriously because of my knowledge of them as honest people but I did not have evidence they were true and so did not claim to know this.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 3
          Replying to @HPluckrose @cheomit @CathyYoung63

          I saw it very soon afterwards in relation to three people. You are confusing believing things from credible people with knowing them to be true, claiming them to be true & expecting society to regard them as true.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 3
          Replying to @HPluckrose @cheomit @CathyYoung63

          One of my friends told me she had been raped. I believed her because I know her to be mentally well & honest. I saw the fallout of it for her emotionally. I supported her. I wanted the rapist dead. There wasn't sufficient evidence to prosecute & I fantasised abt killing him.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        10. 7 more replies
        1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Mar 3
          Replying to @YondaBarry @CathyYoung63 @cheomit

          He's not denying it. He posted the email saying he was doing it himself and laughed about the fear response - come near me & I will call the police. He defends this. I'm muting you as you are clearly both rude and unreasonable.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
          Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. Undo
          Undo

      Loading seems to be taking a while.

      Twitter may be over capacity or experiencing a momentary hiccup. Try again or visit Twitter Status for more information.

        Promoted Tweet

        false

        • © 2018 Twitter
        • About
        • Help Center
        • Terms
        • Privacy policy
        • Cookies
        • Ads info