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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 25

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted DM Berger

    I don't see 'includes sex' as a higher standard. That is a particular kind of relationship and may or may not be a deep connection. Other relationships can have deep connections without sex playing any part in them. This really isn't difficult.https://twitter.com/DM_Berger/status/967773872320798722 …

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    Again you move away from the original context (where there is sexual potential) and again, you make the fallacious assumption that higher standards = missing out. A marriage can and does stale, and sex is often a culprit. And a deep marriage is unlikely to become one w/o the sex
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      2. DM Berger‏ @DM_Berger Feb 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        This is because people value sex differently. You don't seem to think much of it, so you have lower (less strict not "better" or "worse") standards for what counts as "deep" (or "love"). For others, those things require more boxes to be ticked.

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      3. ben - [ sinister by design ]‏ @aSinister Feb 25
        Replying to @DM_Berger @HPluckrose

        Do you have the same kinds of experiences sexually with everyone you have sex with? You can eat McDonalds, or Ruth Chris with anyone. There are vastly different experiences and skipping Ruth Chris because you haven't ticked all your marriage boxes is missing out.

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      4. DM Berger‏ @DM_Berger Feb 25
        Replying to @aSinister @HPluckrose

        Sex doesn't magically guarantee or confer greater depth: It just opens the potential for it. Also, many people *can't* have just sex with "anyone", precisely because it is so much more meaningful and important to real connection.

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      5. ben - [ sinister by design ]‏ @aSinister Feb 25
        Replying to @DM_Berger @HPluckrose

        Well you *can't* have just dinner with "anyone" You can enjoy sex casually and still have amazing deep passionate sex. I mean it's the difference between Monday night sex after work/kids/dinner/homework/early day tomorrow, and kid-free weekend friday night sex.

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