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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 25

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted DatNoFact  ↗

    Yeah. I don't like this 'Real men do X' shit. Real men do all kinds of things. What matters is whether what they do is reasonable and ethical, not whether it fits any kind of gender mould.https://twitter.com/datnofact/status/967543768646930433 …

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    DatNoFact  ↗ @datnofact
    Some men are more stoic Some men are more sensitive Some men cry Some men don't Be great if we could promote positive human qualities without making men who didn't fit a specific mould feel like they're not "real men". https://twitter.com/MarkRuffalo/status/967539333027770368 …
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      2. Noone Special‏ @KantBreal Feb 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Biology not taught anymore? Real men are XY, not X

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 25
        Replying to @KantBreal

        Biological gender differences exist but these are related more to brains and hormones than chromosomes. Theres a very strong correlation between these but some variance & this is why we have trans people.

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      4. Noone Special‏ @KantBreal Feb 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Sarcastic humor over Twitter not always successful. Would love to be in a position to discuss such issues with people rather than over Twitter. No means to emote correctly and too many assume people are looking for a fight rather than a discussion.

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      1. mark propp‏ @damosuzuki1 Feb 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        of course. while still recognizing that on average male and female behaviors on many traits are different. doesn't mean you shouldn't be accepting of all those reasonable variations, naturally.

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      2. Helen Wilson‏ @premodernism Feb 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        The fact that this attitude is so prevent is what makes mtf trans necessary. If men was redefined to mean "adult male human" that would help. I see conservative commenters denigrate trans in one breath, then "soy boys" in the next for being beta cucks. Can't have it both ways.

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      3. Helen Wilson‏ @premodernism Feb 25
        Replying to @premodernism @HPluckrose

        Because you end up with a class of people who are just not going to be accepted in society.

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      1. Lotak‏ @LotakX Feb 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I can count the number of times I've cried in one hand over the last 10 years. Does that mean I'm not a real man?pic.twitter.com/n4uE2Y1r4a

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      1. Sigma‏ @sigma73 Feb 26
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        100% agree. Same with Real Women do X. Drives me crazy. The Left are probably the worst at stereotyping.

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      1. Special Snowflake‏ @zedverism211 Feb 25
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        I agree. It's manipulative.

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      1. The Tao of Audley‏ @AudleyStrange Feb 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        The "Real men" shtick rather begs the question as to what are "fake men", eh?

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      1. James Tiberius Stone‏ @Evolving_Ego Feb 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        We've got to remember that @MarkRuffalo was the Hulk. When he says that we should "keep the strength on the inside" he's speaking his (Bruce Banner's) own truth.

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      1. Harold Weaver Smith‏ @hws5mp Feb 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Stopped caring about the 'Real Men Playbook' when I saw it was mostly a list of don'ts: don't say x, don't show an interest in y, don't have an opinion on z. You're just boxing yourself into the footy/cars/beer/sex corner. Nothing wrong with any of that but there's more, y'know?

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      1. Ernestine 🇿🇦‏ @vanastaden Feb 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Yes. Thank you.

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      1. Anno Dryseagaker‏ @altrowing Feb 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        At a cultural level this message may, may, I emphasise, have led a lot of men, and thus women to have vastly less stable, satisfyingly and successful emotional and romantic lives than an emphasis on traditional gender roles. Discuss, in 240 chars. or less

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      1. T.J.‏ @tjaffry Feb 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Yeah it’s the No True Scotsman Fallacy. Growing up and being a decent person is what we should all be doing independent of gender.

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