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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 24

    Here's a thing that really annoys me re gender relations. People who have trouble comprehending that heterosexual people of one sex can deeply connect & even love people of the other sex without there being any romantic/sexual element. They seriously lack emotional depth.

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      1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 24

        I really resent feeling the need to say to new male friends whose minds & insights I love, 'Hey. You know this doesn't mean I have a romantic crush on you, right?' That assumption should be the default & we should be able to connect as people & thinkers without this bullshit.

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      2. Grievxnce Scholxr‏ @Kvos77 Feb 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63

        Perhaps they can comprehend it but are simply interested in a sexual relationship with *you*. When there is deep connection AND physical attraction how else would you expect someone to proceed?

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 25
        Replying to @Kvos77 @CathyYoung63

        That's a different issue to not being able to understand how people can have close bonds that aren't sexual or romantic.

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      4. Grievxnce Scholxr‏ @Kvos77 Feb 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63

        Ah, you're talking about the 'men and women can't be friends' thing. Well...if two people are emotionally and physically attracted to each other then why wouldn't they form a relationship? I would say it's external factors that cause them to deny base desires.

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 25
        Replying to @Kvos77 @CathyYoung63

        Again, a different thing. Talking about people who aren't attracted to each other and form close relationships anyway. You know, like the vast majority of relationships we have in life.

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      6. Grievxnce Scholxr‏ @Kvos77 Feb 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63

        Huh...yes, that doesn't make much sense at all.

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      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 25
        Replying to @Kvos77 @CathyYoung63

        Exactly. I'm not terribly attractive right now and also not interested in men who aren't my husband. Yet, I manage to make good friendships with men, anyway.

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      2. Tris Mamone  🌹‏ @tmamone Feb 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Straight people, am I right?

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 25
        Replying to @tmamone

        Maybe they're more inclined to this error. Not sure tho. Gay & bi people are probably more used to negotiating this thoughtfully.

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      4. Tris Mamone  🌹‏ @tmamone Feb 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        That’s why I’m around to keep the cis straight people in line.

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 25
        Replying to @tmamone

        *pats you on head*

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      6. Tris Mamone  🌹‏ @tmamone Feb 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Just doing my part.

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      2. Neil Mungeam‏ @neilmungeam Feb 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        As a gay man whose friends are mostly straight men I find this a really really weird mindset.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 25
        Replying to @neilmungeam

        Yes.

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      2. Brian Erb‏ @BrianErb70 Feb 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        @CathyYoung63 Of course, the guy you feel that way about probably secretly wants to bang you. Female psychology is not the default.https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/men-and-women-cant-be-just-friends/ …

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 25
        Replying to @BrianErb70 @CathyYoung63

        Pretty sure that's not the case.

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      4. Brian Erb‏ @BrianErb70 Feb 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63

        That's what women in the research thought ;) Not only were men far more likely to be erotically interested in their putative friend, women vastly underpredicted it.

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      1. Barry Purcell‏ @solo1y Feb 24
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Yeah. When someone tells me that I *MUST* secretly want to fuck my female friends, I can only think that says more about him than it says about me.

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      2. antihero_kate‏ @antihero_kate Feb 24
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I LOVE LOVE LOVE my husband's best friend. I love him and his finance.

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      3. antihero_kate‏ @antihero_kate Feb 24
        Replying to @antihero_kate @HPluckrose

        I deeply love my brother's friends too. They're my friends as well.

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