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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 12

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Emily VOTE NOVEMBER 6 Mills

      This is awful. If @C_Stroop really thinks 'movement atheism' is neglecting women & (ex)Muslims, he's not been paying attention. Hate the word 'thought-leader' but if you look at which people are most listened to, you find a lot of women & ex-Muslims. https://thinklab.com/c/secularism/thought-leaders …https://twitter.com/millbot/status/963035091613208576 …

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      Emily VOTE NOVEMBER 6 MillsVerified account @millbot
      Fantastic piece by @C_Stroop re: inherent problems of movement atheism & where it begins to collide with far right religious extremism, etc. #emptythepews #metoo #atheiststoo https://chrisstroop.com/2018/02/11/why-i-am-not-an-atheist/amp/?__twitter_impression=true …
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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 12

      I strongly dislike the idea that trying to be right is a bad thing. This just leaves the options of trying to be wrong or not caring whether you're right or wrong or not thinking there is such a thing as right or wrong. @C_Stroop

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 12

      If you mean being too certain of anything, say so. This is valid. The best any of us can hope for, really, is to be the least wrong we can be. This does require a focus on trying to be right, tho.

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 12

      And if you're concerned about tribes forming around atheism, this is also a valid concern. I recommend the book. Everybody is Wrong About God for this. There's really no need to go blathering on about toxic masculinity. Ever, actually.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 12

      I wrote this on the subject of the future of 'new atheism' but obviously, people motivated to go on about the non-inclusiveness of some mythical new atheist movement to women prefer to forget I exist.https://areomagazine.com/2017/05/15/where-now-for-new-atheists/ …

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        2. Culpability Jones‏ @ShineboxHukster Feb 12
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I appreciate all those new atheist personalities & their views but I always had a problem w/ atheism being molded into a doctrine. Why not just leave it as a secular realm of observation & discourse instead of reducing it an ostensible ideology?

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 12
          Replying to @ShineboxHukster

          I don't think the new atheists did that. Atheism+ did. But the so-called 'new atheists' have a range of views.

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        4. Culpability Jones‏ @ShineboxHukster Feb 12
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          That was my original assumption but sometimes Harris & Dawkins et al sound like theyre constructing a doctrine In any case the regressive assault on new atheism is very amusing since they go to such lengths to shield every other pernicious doctrine from scrutiny of accountability

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 12
          Replying to @ShineboxHukster

          They do?

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        6. Culpability Jones‏ @ShineboxHukster Feb 12
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          In any case suffice to say Atheism w/ a capital A is regarded often from many perspectives as having a doctrinal basis giving regressives a handle, albeit an absurd one, to displace all their absurd arguments. I would like to defend the assumption it is not a hard & fast doctrine

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 12
          Replying to @ShineboxHukster

          Well, no. James' book Everybody is Wrong About God argues against an atheist movement or taking 'atheist' as an identity.

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        8. Culpability Jones‏ @ShineboxHukster Feb 12
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I would very much agree w/ this thesis on its face.

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        1. Lucia Harper -  🇨🇦 Strategist - Speaker‏ @YEPBusiness Feb 12
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          good read thanks :)

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        1. jonathan‏ @nathano_j Feb 12
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Good read, engaging w/ Gray was cool. Dunno where I stand, but this one of his seemed relevant: "... salvation through science continued the meaning-giving role of transcendental religion, as did Nietzsche’s own myth of the Superman."https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2014/03/ghost-atheist-feast-was-nietzsche-right-about-religion …

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        1. CQFG‏ @BobFitzmarcel Feb 12
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Come on. New atheism is dead because everyone could see how simplistic its arguments were.

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        2. [Ravi] {{{Oli}}}‏ @SatyreContraire Feb 12
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          New atheism is mostly an American thing and it's not like there is a lot of Muslim in the USA to begin with. I'm not really worried about European ex Muslim.

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        3. [Ravi] {{{Oli}}}‏ @SatyreContraire Feb 12
          Replying to @SatyreContraire @HPluckrose

          And well, I'm not really worried about atheist women, they are very opiniated. ;p

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