This is awful. If @C_Stroop really thinks 'movement atheism' is neglecting women & (ex)Muslims, he's not been paying attention. Hate the word 'thought-leader' but if you look at which people are most listened to, you find a lot of women & ex-Muslims. https://thinklab.com/c/secularism/thought-leaders …https://twitter.com/millbot/status/963035091613208576 …
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I appreciate all those new atheist personalities & their views but I always had a problem w/ atheism being molded into a doctrine. Why not just leave it as a secular realm of observation & discourse instead of reducing it an ostensible ideology?
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I don't think the new atheists did that. Atheism+ did. But the so-called 'new atheists' have a range of views.
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That was my original assumption but sometimes Harris & Dawkins et al sound like theyre constructing a doctrine In any case the regressive assault on new atheism is very amusing since they go to such lengths to shield every other pernicious doctrine from scrutiny of accountability
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They do?
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In any case suffice to say Atheism w/ a capital A is regarded often from many perspectives as having a doctrinal basis giving regressives a handle, albeit an absurd one, to displace all their absurd arguments. I would like to defend the assumption it is not a hard & fast doctrine
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Well, no. James' book Everybody is Wrong About God argues against an atheist movement or taking 'atheist' as an identity.
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I would very much agree w/ this thesis on its face.
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good read thanks :)
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Good read, engaging w/ Gray was cool. Dunno where I stand, but this one of his seemed relevant: "... salvation through science continued the meaning-giving role of transcendental religion, as did Nietzsche’s own myth of the Superman."https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2014/03/ghost-atheist-feast-was-nietzsche-right-about-religion …
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Come on. New atheism is dead because everyone could see how simplistic its arguments were.
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New atheism is mostly an American thing and it's not like there is a lot of Muslim in the USA to begin with. I'm not really worried about European ex Muslim.
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And well, I'm not really worried about atheist women, they are very opiniated. ;p
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