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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 11

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Francisco Boni

    Excellent thread!https://twitter.com/boni_bo/status/962376935425880064 …

    Helen Pluckrose added,

    Francisco Boni @boni_bo
    .@jordanbpeterson argues that it is hypocritical for women to wear makeup & not to expect sexual coercion (harassment) & that maybe they're partially to blame if it happens. Here is thread on why he is maybe fractally wrong (wrong at every conceivable scale of resolution) pic.twitter.com/RQnjVw73Mo
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    5:22 AM - 11 Feb 2018
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    • Caibre Hego Damask 🇬🇧 Francisco Boni Evan Sandhoefner EtherDoc Skele-Yo the Fearmonger 👻 Kat Charles Peyton One in a Zillion
    5 replies 11 retweets 30 likes
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      2. Mounteban/k/‏ @Jimityjam Feb 11
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        While that's an excellent rebuttal, I have to say I'm getting a little concerned about all this JBP dogpiling. It's really starting to look like the same 'purity testing' we mock in the PoMo circles.

        3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 11
        Replying to @Jimityjam

        That assumes we have the same goals and are in the same circles to begin with & pounce on people who don't approach them correctly. I disagree with Peterson for the same reason I disagree with other deniers of the objectivity of truth and other social conservatives. Consistently.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. Mounteban/k/‏ @Jimityjam Feb 11
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Fair enough. I suppose I'm not getting concerned because you SPECIFICALLY, @GodDoesnt, or a few others criticise (it's your right). Just that my timeline has been FILLED with it the last month or so. Looks like a lynch mob.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 11
        Replying to @Jimityjam @GodDoesnt

        Judge them on what they are criticising him for, whether it is reasonable and related to what he is saying. He's a significant voice now with much influence. The problem is that he is a one-man phenomenon so criticism of his ideas ends up indistinguishable from criticism of him.

        2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
      6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 11
        Replying to @HPluckrose @Jimityjam @GodDoesnt

        This makes me uncomfortable too because I can criticise far-right & far-left & religious & anti-SJW views without targetting individuals & just focusing on ideas. But he, as I said, is a one-man phenomenon so this doesn't work. It matters tho. It need to be addressed.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Mounteban/k/‏ @Jimityjam Feb 11
        Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

        Yeah. If there were 5, 10, or 100 JBPs, this wouldn't look so much like a dogpile.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. End of conversation
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      2. Stefan Blomskog‏ @S_Blomskog Feb 11
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Honest question: where does @jordanbpeterson argue this? Link available?

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 11
        Replying to @S_Blomskog @jordanbpeterson

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        https://twitter.com/UsorNomine/status/962609960218656768 …

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      4. Stefan Blomskog‏ @S_Blomskog Feb 11
        Replying to @HPluckrose @jordanbpeterson

        Thanks. Pretty short clip, and what he said before and (especially) after it would be interesting, and possibly relevant. But taken at face value (if that's the correct expression), I would strongly disagree with his view.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      5. End of conversation
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      2. Tara West‏ @TaraLWest Feb 11
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I loved this because the entire conversation was filled with good-faith, constructive disagreement. @PsychRabble was particularly adept at keeping the mood light and friendly. And kudos to @boni_bo for maintaining that spirit in multiple subthreads.

        1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
      3. Lee Jussim‏ @PsychRabble Feb 11
        Replying to @TaraLWest @HPluckrose @boni_bo

        Thanks. Whatever lightness was greatly facilitated by use of bitmoji's, which I discovered through @PamelaParesky. It is amazing how those things can take an edge off... (and I have sooo very many edges to be taken off...).pic.twitter.com/YylsKNqqtP

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      4. Tara West‏ @TaraLWest Feb 11
        Replying to @PsychRabble @HPluckrose and

        And now I have bitmoji! I feel my conversational style improving already =)pic.twitter.com/fs3RjmwV4r

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Lee Jussim‏ @PsychRabble Feb 11
        Replying to @TaraLWest @HPluckrose and

        How is all the twitter outrage gonna sustain itself if everyone starts tweeting these mildly amusing and silly cartoon selfies...?pic.twitter.com/Ay97bzdWdT

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      6. Tara West‏ @TaraLWest Feb 11
        Replying to @PsychRabble @HPluckrose and

        No sweat!pic.twitter.com/RUs6L4AUah

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      7. Pamela Paresky‏ @PamelaParesky Feb 11
        Replying to @TaraLWest @PsychRabble and

        pic.twitter.com/0bovsdZNzh

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      8. Lee Jussim‏ @PsychRabble Feb 11
        Replying to @PamelaParesky @TaraLWest and

        This has gotten entirely out of hand and over the top.pic.twitter.com/SVfEd8RJOX

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      9. Pamela Paresky‏ @PamelaParesky Feb 11
        Replying to @PsychRabble @TaraLWest and

        pic.twitter.com/f3oS2URAty

        0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      10. End of conversation
      1. Gideon Moss‏ @egonotis Feb 11
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        When JBP suggested women wear makeup to signal sexual availability thru simulating some elements of physical arousal, Was it meant the same way biologists often talk of the evolutionary explanation for behaviour seen in other species in the language of individual volition?

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      1. Ezra S Abrams‏ @Ezra_Abrams Feb 11
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I think I can summarize what guys think: Why on earth would anyone go to all that trouble and discomfort if not to get laid ?

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