Interesting. I think there's a problem here on enforce-ability, right? If a man/trans woman is passing as a woman, how to we then create systems that monitor who is what, biologically? ID cards? "Sex: Male Gender: Transwoman" ?
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Replying to @JAndViolentMob @AnneBrennan_ and
Gender is for French nouns. People have a sex. Your taste in clothes, haircut, make up body mods or off label hormones is irrelevant. >
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Replying to @dad_gc @AnneBrennan_ and
You do not own the pronouns other people use when speaking about you. People will use the pronouns that they feel most comfortable saying.
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Replying to @dad_gc @AnneBrennan_ and
I see your point. I personally believe this issue wouldn't be an inflammatory if our language lacked gendered pronouns. That being said, a person has a right to claim the gender that is culturally opposed to their sex, and request others respect this, though not force them to?
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Replying to @JAndViolentMob @dad_gc and
Surely, even in recognising biological sex, the issue of gender, and whether this should (?) align with sex in a traditional (male=man, female=woman) way or not, remains?
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Replying to @JAndViolentMob @AnneBrennan_ and
It's all in the mapping and judgement. All based on culturally enforced stereotypes. Bringing the law into that is stupid as blasphemy laws.
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Replying to @dad_gc @AnneBrennan_ and
Gender is in the eye if the beholder, not an intrinsic attribute of people. You do not have to agree with me about how i describe myself.
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Replying to @dad_gc @AnneBrennan_ and
Agreed, though I would say it's in the eye of the beholder and the beheld,. but surely even here it's a matter of basic respect to allow someone their identity, if it's doing no harm?
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Replying to @JAndViolentMob @AnneBrennan_ and
That a matter of etiquette and should not be enforced, by law on women in sport, prisons, politics, dv shelters or choice of sexual partners
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Replying to @dad_gc @AnneBrennan_ and
Let people use whatever pronouns they like, when they speak.
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I agree but rad fems would almost certainly claim to be being erased if not acknowledged as women.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @dad_gc and
Exactly. Both sides want to enforce recognition of their given identities, in law, and that's causing much of the sense of mutual exclusivity, imo.
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