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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 7

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Lindsie

    This is terrible advice from someone who seems to have no idea how men commonly talk to each other. This is how to get arrested.https://twitter.com/lindsie_rose/status/960939457531785216 …

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    Lindsie @Lindsie_Rose
    Replying to @ariannahuff
    This goes to show how out of touch men are and how ingrained sexual harassment is in our culture. Men, treat your female coworkers/employees like you would treat the males. Before saying something to a woman ask if you'd say it to a man.
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      2. Yeyo‏ @YeyoZa Feb 8
        Replying to @HPluckrose @YeyoZa

        The advice seems to be: to determine if a comment is appropriate if said to a woman, it is necessary but not sufficient that the comment would be appropriate if said to a man. She's posing a filter, not saying everything you'd say to a man is necessarily appropriate for a woman.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 8
        Replying to @YeyoZa

        It's a terrible filter if you want people to be less familiar and keep a professional distance but a good one if you want them to relax and be more confident to make personal comments and invite you places.

        0 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
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      1. [Ravi] {{{Oli}}}‏ @SatyreContraire Feb 7
        Replying to @0Kultra @HPluckrose

        What? Adressing a woman as despicable shit eating cumstain isn't an acceptable behavior? My male colleague didn't mind, it should be fine!

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      2. T.J.‏ @tjaffry Feb 7
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Men can't talk to women without being accused of mansplaining & being advised to treat women just like men, where is the consistency?

        1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
      3.  🐸not 🐸 AliRadicali‏ @Banned_Ali Feb 7
        Replying to @tjaffry @HPluckrose

        These people genuinely believe that men treat each other with dignity, courtesy and respect because they're operating on gender studies assumptions of "patriarchy", not any sort of empirical evidence.

        0 replies 2 retweets 9 likes
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      1. Tony H #ScrewEU‏ @The_Morningstar Feb 7
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        She's never worked in any blue-collar job, needs to come down from her ivory tower.

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      1.  ❌Dr. Evil Executive Lich in Charge of Zombies ❌‏ @DoktorEvilGamer Feb 7
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        >Why do women have legs? >So they don't leave snail trails. *Escorted of premises by security* It's awful advice.

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      1. Caleb McAfee‏ @ASA20156 Feb 7
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        Treat coworkers like I would a male Huh? So Basically make inappropriate jokes with her, hold grudges against her, and punch her if she dares insult my favorite waifu. Got it 10/10, Best Advice. Who Needs Therapists when you have Advice like this?

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      1. Jo Kneale‏ @AngelKneale Feb 7
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I have three brothers, a husband and sons who are all lovely and even I know that's bad advice. Women would do better to ask for chivalry yo come back! Personally, I'd rather they treated me like their elderly aunt.

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      1. Tyto Alba‏ @euneaux Feb 7
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Men & women: clueless about each other. The wiser project their own motives on the other sex. The dumber project only wishful thinking. If men treated women as women treat men or even other women...🚔 “Misogynist: A man who hates women as much as women hate one another.”

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      1. Si  🚴🏻‏ @Si_Copath Feb 7
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Agreed. I have great, generous and kind friends but I wouldn’t speak to my wife, or their wives, the way we speak to each other.

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      1. Chris Withers‏ @Chris_Withers Feb 7
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Trying to picture the scenes if my colleagues who regularly fart at each other when annoyed with the other included women in their game. 😲

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      1. Positive Sam‏ @SetUpUsTheB0mb Feb 8
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Even absent casual sexism or banter this would be a dumb approach. There's been studies showing this IIIRC - treating women exactly as you do men results in being perceived as sexist (by both men and women). You have to treat women better just to achieve a perception of equality.

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      1. James Castillo‏ @Verbalfury Feb 8
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        100% true. I wouldn’t utter 75% of what I say to close male friends to ANY woman. They would explode right then and there.

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      1. Intersectional Snark Web‏ @Sexismisme Feb 7
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Literally one of the most common (and often valid) allegations I hear in describing a work place as a misogynistic boys’ club is along the lines of: they kept asking me to drink beer and go to strip clubs. Careful what you wish for.

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      1. Jarmam‏ @TheJarmam Feb 7
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I've tried treating my female friends like bros (one even specifically asked me to). It has a 0.0% success rate. Dont waste everyone's time

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      1. ガンブレイドナイト‏ @GunbladeKnight Feb 8
        Replying to @HPluckrose @TenebraeAeterna

        I call my male friends "bitch" all the time. Also had someone on my shift invite every other guy on the same shift out to a strip club.

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