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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 6

    I really don't understand premodern fetishists. I'd be dead at least 8 times already if it weren't for modern medicine. Not that I'd ever have been born because my father was premature at 1lb and my mother was in a fire as a child and needed skin grafts to survive.

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      2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 6

        You really don't want to live in a premodern state, people. The saddest thing for me studying it was that parents simply couldn't psychologically afford to love their children. They were so much more likely to die than survive, they had to harden themselves until teenage years.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 6

        Imagine having 15 pregnancies but ending up with 1,2 or 3 adult offspring. Imagine losing 12 or 13 children between birth and 10. You couldn't survive it if you let yourself love them unreservedly. Then look at your little ones and imagine missing out on being able to love them.

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      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 6

        It's no good saying slavery, colonialism, high infant mortality, oppression of women & LGBTs happened in modern era so it's bad. That's to miss that they happened in every other era. Look at the one that worked its way out of them. Don't undervalue this unless you want to go back

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      2. Jimothy Wilders‏ @WildersJimothy Feb 7
        Replying to @HPluckrose @hbdchick

        Cultural decay and technological advancement are not the same things. Many traditionalists prefer older social structures/values/lifestyle while still approving of penicillin.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 7
        Replying to @WildersJimothy @hbdchick

        Unfortunately, we couldn't get the penicillin until we pushed religion back and allowed empiricism, science and the free exchange of ideas to emerge.

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      4. Jimothy Wilders‏ @WildersJimothy Feb 7
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Alexander Fleming, the inventor of penicillin, was a devout Catholic.

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      1. Captain Marvelous‏ @ShinGokaiRed Feb 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63

        I think it’s solely the romanticism associated with the various eras that hook people. It’s another form of fantasy escapism.

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      1. T.J.‏ @tjaffry Feb 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Nostalgia is boring & pervasive everywhere, sometime in the vague past things were good & the future in general is dystopian.pic.twitter.com/9W7nc1Z9v6

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      1. James Tiberius Stone‏ @Evolving_Ego Feb 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I think they imagine still having the antibiotics and hot running water.

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      1. Kareem Sabri‏ @kareem_sabri Feb 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I think they fetishize it assuming they’re alive :) Seems to be just a bit of misanthropy/unhappiness mixed with noble savage thinking and naturalistic fetishization.

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      1. mark propp‏ @damosuzuki1 Feb 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        this is my go-to resource every time someone tells me 'things aren't what they used to be' or words to that effect.https://ourworldindata.org/ 

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      2. [Ravi] {{{Oli}}}‏ @SatyreContraire Feb 7
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I'm a big white male, I would have done great during antiquity. Or I would have been beheaded by a rival tribesmen, who knows. ¯\_ツ_/¯ I'm not sure I'm willing to bet on this.

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      3. [Ravi] {{{Oli}}}‏ @SatyreContraire Feb 7
        Replying to @SatyreContraire @HPluckrose

        Wait, no, I would probably be dead from an acute appendicitis. ;(

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      1. Tamara Brouwer‏ @TamaraBrouwer1 Feb 7
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I'd have died in childbirth. Hypertension. So.....I'm good in this period.

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      1. JoeD‏ @HClayjr Feb 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63

        But there'd be no Twitter or internet, so maybe call it a wash?

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      1. Liz Waters‏ @cdnwaters Feb 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I'll have you know the level 34 character I've built in Skyrim is wildly successful, so I clearly would have done much better if I was born in 1100 AD.

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      1. David Shipley‏ @DavidCShipley Feb 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Combination of idealised view of the past and a belief in own specialness I imagine.

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      1. Mat Vaillancourt‏ @MVLibertas Feb 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I was born in 1989. If I was born 5 years earlier due to my acute prematurity I would probably not be there today.

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      2. The Grey Girl‏ @The_GreyGirl Feb 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I wonder if that's why in the north of England and Scotland they just refer to the youngest as 'the bairn' as it meant less attachment than if they called them by name? Historical holdover?

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      3. James Burnett‏ @james_burnett_ Feb 7
        Replying to @The_GreyGirl @HPluckrose

        Bairn is one of the smattering of Viking words we use. Term of affection. A language peculiarity rather than an indicator of emotional distance.

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      4. The Grey Girl‏ @The_GreyGirl Feb 7
        Replying to @james_burnett_ @HPluckrose

        Ah, thank you! I've always wondered about this

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      5. James Burnett‏ @james_burnett_ Feb 7
        Replying to @The_GreyGirl

        A vanishing word, sadly. When I was young "baby" was rarely heard in everyday speech. I never hear "bairn" now. Or oxter (armpit).

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      6. The Grey Girl‏ @The_GreyGirl Feb 7
        Replying to @james_burnett_

        My husband's family is all from Newcastle - my son is pretty much only referred to as 'the bairn' by them

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      7. James Burnett‏ @james_burnett_ Feb 8
        Replying to @The_GreyGirl

        A generational thing - probably. Up here (Scotland) usage was universal. I never hear it now. Hope the Geordies keep it going.

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