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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 6

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Dermot O'Sullivan

    Well, that's not fair! I want to live now because I'm unlikely to die in childbirth, my kids are all likely to survive, I can vote, own property, control my own movements, have human rights, be free of lice & parasites, be atheist, have antibiotics, dentistry, survive plaguehttps://twitter.com/derryborndo/status/961043032505307136 …

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    Dermot O'Sullivan @derryborndo
    Replying to @HPluckrose
    Helen, I think I could probably list some bullet points. But I'd be interested in your (abstract, rather than concrete) examples of late medieval horrors in contrast to modern ones. 1 rule: you can't mention anything that Pinker mentioned in "Better Angels..."!
    5:10 PM - 6 Feb 2018
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      2. Dermot O'Sullivan‏ @derryborndo Feb 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I don't think Pinker mentions property rights: that's very Lockean and Niall Fergusonian. It looks q convincing, esp. in the contrast between N & S American development 1600-1900, but one wonders if the concentration of property into much fewer hands mitigates it nowadays. Cheers

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 6
        Replying to @derryborndo

        Fewer hands? You think a larger proportion of society owned property in medieval times than now?

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      4. Dermot O'Sullivan‏ @derryborndo Feb 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Not at all. Ferguson refers to the incentive 4 indentured immigrants to America to do their time & then be guaranteed a piece of land after x years. Petty estates lead to competition & tech innovation then ind. rev - good argument. Yet it also leads to concentration of ownership.

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 6
        Replying to @derryborndo

        Well more people might have owned their own land in America in medieval times because there was so much of it but I don't know Native American history? Did individuals own land then?

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      6. Dermot O'Sullivan‏ @derryborndo Feb 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Dunno. I am referring to the European immigrants. Ferguson says that was the deal for the European settlers in the 16 and 1700s. 5 or 10 years of being an indentured servant, then you get your own amount of acres to do with as you please. + proto-democracy of the land-owners.

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      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 6
        Replying to @derryborndo

        That's the modern period. Did things get better or not?

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      8. Dermot O'Sullivan‏ @derryborndo Feb 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Of course. Ferguson ascribes progress to many having smallish shareholdings. My point is that the ownership has conglomerated into bigger holdings in fewer hands. So you have to ascribe progress since, say, the late C19th, to other variables - e.g. culture of science & tech.

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      9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 6
        Replying to @derryborndo

        Which is a product of modernity. I don't know where you're going here. Do you think you are better off now than you would have been in the medieval period or not?

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      2. B₉ = ⓥ + 𝓐‏ @D_A_M_B Feb 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Toilet paper. #Done

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      1. James Blandford‏ @blandford360 Feb 6
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        You could have stopped at dentistry and won hands down.

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      1. Yenrap Rellin‏ @sisboombahbah Feb 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Check your modern privilege! ;)

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      1. Ronald D. Potts  🇺🇲‏ @RonaldDPotts1 Feb 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Death by dysentery

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      1. Sean‏ @BlackGriffin0 Feb 6
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Converse with luddite numpties over Twitter without fear of them burning you as a witch or heretic. ;)

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