I'm well aware of the bonkers nonsense being generated in the US on this point. It doesn't magically become okay when hung on another group by persons other than Donald Trump or the GOP.
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Replying to @_HelenDale @zumumma
it’s an entirely separate issue and conflating the two is ignorant. when the criminal justice system completely fails countless members of a population its sometimes necessary to use alternative methods for avoiding harm.
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Replying to @MarisaKabas @zumumma
And so the siren song of 'vengeance, not justice' makes its way into public acceptance.
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Replying to @_HelenDale @zumumma
not sure how you made the logical leap from protecting women from sexual violence equaling vengeance
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Replying to @MarisaKabas @zumumma
'It's sometimes necessary to use alternative methods for avoiding harm'.
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It rules out justice tho and can be used for vengeance. I think we'd all see the problem if men had an unsubstantiated list for women whose flirtation they didn't rate. I think a football team got disbanded once for doing something like this, didn't it?
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you, like roiphe, care more about men’s reputations than women’s safety.
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That assumes that women who are subjected to clumsy passes or consensually shag their bosses are unsafe. These are not the same as rape or stalking or papering over pretended consent with NDAs.
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i’m gonna keep on supporting women who say they’ve felt unsafe. good luck on your Men’s Rights crusade.
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Identitarian nonsense. If women say they feel unsafe because someone asked them for coffee, advise them to seek help! Don't indulge it. We made such great strides breaking down stereotypes of women as hysterical, fragile & unable to cope in the public sphere. Don't throw it away.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @MarisaKabas and
That would be mansplaining, surely?
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Replying to @pkolding @HPluckrose and
Nothing less than dykesplaining if it's me doing it ;)
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