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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Dale‏Verified account @_HelenDale Feb 5
      Replying to @MarisaKabas @zumumma

      I'm well aware of the bonkers nonsense being generated in the US on this point. It doesn't magically become okay when hung on another group by persons other than Donald Trump or the GOP.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    2. marisa kabas‏Verified account @MarisaKabas Feb 5
      Replying to @_HelenDale @zumumma

      it’s an entirely separate issue and conflating the two is ignorant. when the criminal justice system completely fails countless members of a population its sometimes necessary to use alternative methods for avoiding harm.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Helen Dale‏Verified account @_HelenDale Feb 5
      Replying to @MarisaKabas @zumumma

      And so the siren song of 'vengeance, not justice' makes its way into public acceptance.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. marisa kabas‏Verified account @MarisaKabas Feb 5
      Replying to @_HelenDale @zumumma

      not sure how you made the logical leap from protecting women from sexual violence equaling vengeance

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Helen Dale‏Verified account @_HelenDale Feb 5
      Replying to @MarisaKabas @zumumma

      'It's sometimes necessary to use alternative methods for avoiding harm'.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. marisa kabas‏Verified account @MarisaKabas Feb 5
      Replying to @_HelenDale @zumumma

      that is not the same as vengeance.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 5
      Replying to @MarisaKabas @_HelenDale @zumumma

      It rules out justice tho and can be used for vengeance. I think we'd all see the problem if men had an unsubstantiated list for women whose flirtation they didn't rate. I think a football team got disbanded once for doing something like this, didn't it?

      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    8. marisa kabas‏Verified account @MarisaKabas Feb 5
      Replying to @HPluckrose @_HelenDale @zumumma

      you, like roiphe, care more about men’s reputations than women’s safety.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Helen Dale‏Verified account @_HelenDale Feb 5
      Replying to @MarisaKabas @HPluckrose @zumumma

      That assumes that women who are subjected to clumsy passes or consensually shag their bosses are unsafe. These are not the same as rape or stalking or papering over pretended consent with NDAs.

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    10. marisa kabas‏Verified account @MarisaKabas Feb 5
      Replying to @_HelenDale @HPluckrose @zumumma

      i’m gonna keep on supporting women who say they’ve felt unsafe. good luck on your Men’s Rights crusade.

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 5
      Replying to @MarisaKabas @_HelenDale @zumumma

      Identitarian nonsense. If women say they feel unsafe because someone asked them for coffee, advise them to seek help! Don't indulge it. We made such great strides breaking down stereotypes of women as hysterical, fragile & unable to cope in the public sphere. Don't throw it away.

      4:30 AM - 5 Feb 2018
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        2. Peter Kolding‏ @pkolding Feb 5
          Replying to @HPluckrose @MarisaKabas and

          That would be mansplaining, surely?

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        3. Helen Dale‏Verified account @_HelenDale Feb 5
          Replying to @pkolding @HPluckrose and

          Nothing less than dykesplaining if it's me doing it ;)

          0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
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