It is difficult because it seems a line does need to be drawn somewhere between the burqa and public naked sex & that will always be, to some extent, arbitrary. There is no factual line. This genuinely is a social construct. We have to argue for where we think it should be & whyhttps://twitter.com/mlowry/status/960119315365326848 …
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Replying to @HPluckrose
As I think about it a bit more, why does there need to be line drawn? If we believe in free speech, then surely that entails free dress as well. how does it not? If free speech is a human right, then surely free dress is too. They are both forms of freedom of expression.
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Replying to @PaulieVerity
It can't be rationalised. It's a disgust response and it's probably not going away. We're a long way from people being happy to see someone masturbating on the bus when they're taking their kids to school even if they did so hygienically.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
ok so free dress to you is a man masturbating on a school bus. Pretty sure that most people wouldn't do that, because of morals etc So if we cant trust people to choose their own dress, then forcing women to dress modestly is ok? That really is the end of your argument here.
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Replying to @PaulieVerity
That was my point in the first place! That there needs to be some line between burqas and public naked sex and that wherever it is will always be somewhat arbitrary. It genuinely is a social construct and we need to argue for where that is.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Nudity & public naked sex aren't the same thing Not being clothed is not the same thing as being available for sex. They are two very different things and I"m surprised you are conflating the two. What we wear & what we say should be free, providing it doesnt cause harm to others
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Replying to @PaulieVerity
The scale is 'modesty' in relation to concepts of sexual appropriateness.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Is a naked human immodest or sexual? Or is it just what it is? A naked human like we all are? Modesty is a judgement and I'm a bit sad that you have decided to judge as to what is modest and what is not? Who gave you that right to decide what is modest?
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Replying to @PaulieVerity
It was you who said 'No public sex because people have morals', not me. Your line is obviously where sexuality is concerned. OK, mine probably is too. But this is still largely arbitrary. Sex is natural. The other animals don't worry. Can't rationalise it.
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Why do you always miss the point and get antagonistic about it? It's beyond tiresome. I really have had enough now.
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