I think we do provided we make coercion illegal and prosecute properly. "Let's make X illegal so no-one can feel pressured into X' is generally illiberal.https://twitter.com/kareem_sabri/status/960176316208185345 …
To a certain extent. People certainly have to be able to choose from the options that are there. I'm not sure liberalism requires us to make other options ppl will enjoy & there will always be unpleasant jobs that need doing.
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I’m not sure either. I don’t think it’s solvable, and disparity in options will always be reality. But we can recognize an oppressive form of lack of options (poverty etc.) that undermines liberalism and rectify it with a social safety net. Equality of opportunity is the aim, no?
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Well, yes, this is a different matter.
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Seems related to the sex work question, but maybe I misunderstood where you were going with that.
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It has gone way off hijabs, hasn't it? Sex work and hijabs are often raised together or separately as things that should be banned to ensure that no-one is coerced into them.
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Got it. I wouldn’t ban either, and I don’t think they’re all that similar. One is economic and other is cultural. Hence we got into poverty, which drives sex work at bottom end (or drugs). Hijab’s circumstances of coercion very different. /1
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It seems a liberalism that is for choice in the abstract but ignores the circumstances in which one makes choices is rather ineffectual. Taken to its extreme it’s libertarianism, which I think would be pretty miserable in practice.
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It's just a different thing.
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I don’t think we have to provide alternative enjoyable job options, but there should be a path out of the circumstances the necessitate that job. Ideally without too much suffering on the way out. Poverty shouldn’t be a trap you must be born and die in, for example.
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I don't think we disagree at all here.
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I don’t either
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