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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 3

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      No, actually the fact that women choose STEM least where they have most freedom to choose supports the ample evidence that men and women have different interests on average. https://twitter.com/inquirer2772/status/959605964273016834 …

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    2. Alistair Davidson  🍞 🌹 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿‏ @moh_kohn Feb 3
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      That women have the highest mathematical attainment in societies with more women in parliament strongly suggests a stereotyping effecthttps://www.researchgate.net/publication/40906547_Cross-National_Patterns_of_Gender_Differences_in_Mathematics_A_Meta-Analysis …

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    3. Alistair Davidson  🍞 🌹 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿‏ @moh_kohn Feb 3
      Replying to @moh_kohn @HPluckrose

      Any hypothesis also needs to explain this bizarre trend. Innate interests can't.pic.twitter.com/4L5RcFffX1

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 3
      Replying to @moh_kohn

      No? Is it not possible that women got more freedom of choice in this time? Having lived through it, I'd suggest they did.

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        2. Alistair Davidson  🍞 🌹 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿‏ @moh_kohn Feb 3
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          So the hypothesis is now "There is an innate gender gap in interest in computer science, but no such gap in physical sciences - and until the mid 80s this was disguised by women being forced into computer science"? It's possible, but very elaborate

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Feb 3
          Replying to @moh_kohn

          No. There are gaps all over the physical sciences with women dominating some areas and men others. But during the 80s, equal pay laws came into effect and women were more able to do what they really wanted. Also tech became increasingly...well, technical.

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        4. Kareem Sabri‏ @kareem_sabri Feb 3
          Replying to @HPluckrose @moh_kohn

          People usually don’t mention computing underwent a complete revolution in the late 80s and the field of comp sci changed drastically with the introduction of the microprocessor. Nothing pre-microprocessor would be considered a computer in the modern sense.

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        5. Kareem Sabri‏ @kareem_sabri Feb 3
          Replying to @kareem_sabri @HPluckrose @moh_kohn

          Sorry, late 70s

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        6. Forbin Project‏ @ForbinP Feb 3
          Replying to @kareem_sabri @HPluckrose @moh_kohn

          ..and I suspect that a generation of boys who got interested via 1980s home computers could be a big factor. Use of %ages in that graph may obscure that "growth spurt".

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        1. Gary Gallagher‏ @askintoofew Feb 4
          Replying to @HPluckrose @moh_kohn

          Film editing used to be seen as the preserve of women given its similiarities to sewing! Point is- we can't rule out a stereotype effect influencing its popularity to begin with.

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        1. James‏ @jmac_ai Feb 3
          Replying to @HPluckrose @moh_kohn

          Possible, but there seem to be a lot of possibilities. That is not how I have heard it told from women in CS I personally know who lived through that change point and concerns by women about CS departments were being raised at that very time. For example: http://www.math.utah.edu/~newren/linux/random/download/cause-gpdf-crash.pdf …

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