Freedom is should be a vitally important thing to liberals, but it is not the only important thing. I notice a tendency for some classical liberals and those on the more libertarian end to think that ethical evaluation ends at "Did you choose to do this freely?"
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And, of course, I am not saying we have the right to demand people justify themselves or that "calling out" people we disagree with is a helpful thing to do. But I think we can continue to discuss issues generally beyond the point of "Freedom of expression/belief" etc
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"Why did you say that same sex marriage is bad" is not answered by "Freedom of speech." Why do you support gender-specific modesty codes" is not answered by "Freedom of belief." The freedom to say that & believe that are non-negotiable but there continue to be ethical issues.
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I feel like when it comes to those who can be considered liberal in the original sense (ie not synonymous with lefties) there is a spectrum with a highly moralistic call-out culture at one end and a laissez faire cultural libertarianism at the other.
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I am not entirely sure myself where the balance should be. Among the people I respect, there are some who think I lean too far towards tolerating intolerance & and some who think I need to lighten up a bit & stop scolding.
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I think I might have to write a thing about this and try to work it out as I go along. I'm inclined to think holding consistent liberal principles, separating the right to choose from the rightness of choice & challenging bad ideas rather than calling out individuals are all key.
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You just articulated a point I've been thinking about a lot. Thanks! I discussion about ethics is sorely needed amongst liberals.
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:) I go into it in much more detail here:https://conatusnews.com/red-flags-fallacies-3/ …
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I'm on it!
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A* discussion lol
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