Yes. You can disagree and argue that it actually has worth and there isn't a big movement growing up around it of people, primarily young men, who find him inspirational and to bring hope but this doesn't make it a bad faith argument to disagree with you.
Because they think it is really true and feel wounded that people who think it isn't want to look at why they are drawn to these ideas. It's obvious to them. It's because it's true! So they keep on & on insisting people debate them on the rightness of their beliefs. #Devotion
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Oh for chrissakes, he literally uses the phrase "snake oil". I don't agree with all of Peterson's ideas; attempting to nudge me into the "jilted believer" box is exactly the sort of condescension I'm talking about. People are annoyed because they've been mischaracterized. 1/
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Right. Is that not OK? Must we pretend this kind of thing has worth? Obviously people will be annoyed if they think it does. Same with anything some people think true & others don't. And of course, people feel annoyed if they think they're right & others don't.
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It seems like more than this tho. You're not just pointing out that people get annoyed when other people don't believe the same thing as them? Its like you think James shouldn't have written from an angle of not sharing those views.
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I think he should have acknowledged that he was writing from one side of the empiricist/pragmatist divide instead of feigning objectivity.
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Another different claim. First he wrong for thinking Peterson was wrong. Now he is wrong for not acknowledging he thinks Peterson is wrong. This is really silly. You are all over the place and keep changing what the problem is. You just want to have a problem for some reason.
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I never said he was wrong for thinking Peterson was wrong. You interpreted me that way a number of times, but I didn't say it. I know this because I don't actually think it's true--disagreement is fine, which I did say. I don't know why we're not communicating, and I don't know
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how to phrase it any more clearly so perhaps we've reached an impasse.
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