'In many cases.' And 'it's far too soon to tell'
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Replying to @HPluckrose
You give him too much credit. I saw his comments weeks ago regarding this very stance on JBP. "Any" is exactly what he meant.
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Replying to @AnglerFishLure
No. He meant what he was very careful to say.
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Replying to @AnglerFishLure
I see. It doesn't matter what people actually say very clearly and explicitly. We just mindread them & insist we know what they really mean. I'm sure you'd be fine with people doing this to you. You want a white ethnostate in which homosexuality is illegal & women have no rights
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Replying to @HPluckrose @AnglerFishLure
I don't see how that's fundamentally different than what James did in the essay. He paints the audience as a monolith & interprets their motivations, then asserts that they're being duped rather than expressing a philosophical difference. So you should understand the annoyance.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @AnglerFishLure
He identifies his real disagreement with Peterson: pragmatism against empiricism. But instead of delving into that he calls JBP's philosophy "snake oil" and spends most of the essay comparing his fans to a cult. That's a good faith argument?
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Replying to @_Baloo_The_Bear @AnglerFishLure
Yes. You can disagree and argue that it actually has worth and there isn't a big movement growing up around it of people, primarily young men, who find him inspirational and to bring hope but this doesn't make it a bad faith argument to disagree with you.
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You can think James and Douglas Murray mistaken about the passion he is inspiring & insist that he's just normally popular but I'd urge you to look at the figures of how many people are going to see him, how much money is contributed each month to his goals, the language they use
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If you think there is a chance they are right about his immense popularity & people finding him inspirational, what would you suggest would be the right way to say so? Because I think James got it. He was charitable & complimentary everywhere he could be. That was a lot.
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