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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 30

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      People, 'It looks like many comments are going to support my observation' is very different to 'Any comment supports my observation.' https://twitter.com/goddoesnt/status/958418983065149441 …

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    2. Terynce Tzu (TAFKA Terr bear  🐻)‏ @AnglerFishLure Jan 30
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      He didn't say "many comments", Helen. He said "the comments". You give him too much credit.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 30
      Replying to @AnglerFishLure

      'In many cases.' And 'it's far too soon to tell'

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    4. Terynce Tzu (TAFKA Terr bear  🐻)‏ @AnglerFishLure Jan 30
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      You give him too much credit. I saw his comments weeks ago regarding this very stance on JBP. "Any" is exactly what he meant.

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 30
      Replying to @AnglerFishLure

      No. He meant what he was very careful to say.

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    6. Terynce Tzu (TAFKA Terr bear  🐻)‏ @AnglerFishLure Jan 30
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      pic.twitter.com/tUvecWbAoe

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 30
      Replying to @AnglerFishLure

      I see. It doesn't matter what people actually say very clearly and explicitly. We just mindread them & insist we know what they really mean. I'm sure you'd be fine with people doing this to you. You want a white ethnostate in which homosexuality is illegal & women have no rights

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    8.  🌴Baloo the Bear 🌴‏ @_Baloo_The_Bear Jan 30
      Replying to @HPluckrose @AnglerFishLure

      I don't see how that's fundamentally different than what James did in the essay. He paints the audience as a monolith & interprets their motivations, then asserts that they're being duped rather than expressing a philosophical difference. So you should understand the annoyance.

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 30
      Replying to @_Baloo_The_Bear @AnglerFishLure

      I don't think he does!

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    10.  🌴Baloo the Bear 🌴‏ @_Baloo_The_Bear Jan 30
      Replying to @HPluckrose @AnglerFishLure

      He identifies his real disagreement with Peterson: pragmatism against empiricism. But instead of delving into that he calls JBP's philosophy "snake oil" and spends most of the essay comparing his fans to a cult. That's a good faith argument?

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 30
      Replying to @_Baloo_The_Bear @AnglerFishLure

      Yes. You can disagree and argue that it actually has worth and there isn't a big movement growing up around it of people, primarily young men, who find him inspirational and to bring hope but this doesn't make it a bad faith argument to disagree with you.

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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 30
          Replying to @HPluckrose @_Baloo_The_Bear @AnglerFishLure

          You can think James and Douglas Murray mistaken about the passion he is inspiring & insist that he's just normally popular but I'd urge you to look at the figures of how many people are going to see him, how much money is contributed each month to his goals, the language they use

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 30
          Replying to @HPluckrose @_Baloo_The_Bear @AnglerFishLure

          If you think there is a chance they are right about his immense popularity & people finding him inspirational, what would you suggest would be the right way to say so? Because I think James got it. He was charitable & complimentary everywhere he could be. That was a lot.

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