Even setting sentiment aside, it’s not at all clear to me that the universe in which ‘it’s just a bundle of unwanted cells’ is ethically or morally superior to one in which ‘it’s a complete person with all attendant rights’.
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Replying to @SaintTzu @Claire_Voltaire
Might be factually superior and this should inform our ethics? http://helenpluckroseblogs.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/my-position-on-abortion.html …
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Here’s a brief expansion of my thoughts.https://twitter.com/sainttzu/status/954785526841823233 …
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I agree with your point that anything that stopped the process of ‘you’ would have been all the same in the end as far as you’re concerned. But I don’t think it follows that a society which allowed one way of ending things is therefore equivalent to one which took a different way
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I don't think it is. I think a society which allows women to terminate unwanted pregnancies is better to one that doesn't.
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Do you think there might be a place on the allowing side that’s just as far off the mark as the forbidding one? I mean, the people who want to hold a Freedom Party and get a tattoo to celebrate getting an abortion, for instance.
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I think the equivalent of the forbidding abortion position would be forbidding not having an abortion. People can celebrate having an abortion if they want even if others find it distasteful. They can tolerate it like atheists must tolerate people celebrating being 'saved' etc
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Replying to @HPluckrose @Claire_Voltaire
You mentioned forbidding vs allowing as a society. I think you can consider allowing as a middle ground between forbidding and celebrating or encouraging. I agree that allowing abortion is better than forbidding, all other things equal.
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The point I was aiming for is that I think allowing is probably also better than celebrating, all other things equal. And that a society on the celebratory end of things on the issue of abortion *might* be just as wrong as the forbidding end.
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I don't see how. Someone celebrating their own decision to abort cannot be compared to forbidding someone else to make their own decision.
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But if you mean a society which made women celebrate abortion was as bad as one which forbade women to abort, I kind of agree. This is also abusive. People should be able to make their own decision privately and then feel how they feel about it.
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