Is this about abortion or murder?
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Abortion.
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Ah. The pro-euthanasia crowed did talk about legalizing post-birth abortions. (Which I find mind-boggling, I must say.)
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Oh yes, I forgot about how welcome the pro-life women's groups were at the Womens March in D.C....
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That doesn't relate to anything. You're not making any sense. They weren't welcoming to the radfem you're talking to or to me, a liberal non-feminist. They're not 'the patriarchy' tho.
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She was speaking of the 'brainwashing' of women. I was giving a further example of how the patriarchy has brainwashed many women, though not in the subject of imposed gender norms.
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Are women so weak that they get so easily brainwashed? Some women are pro-life, some are pro-choice. I think they should both be welcome at women's marches because they are women, right? Women don't need to all think the same. But what does the patriarchy have to do with this?
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Women aren't weak by any means! It's taken decades for women to somehow decide that a tool for male freedom from consequence/responsibility is a means of female empowerment. That we can't be *women*, and all that entails, but must be more like *men* in order to have power.
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What will you do when you get the power?
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There's a simple way to tell if a women is brainwashed: she owns more than two pairs of shoes.
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problematic....
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Denying this truth is also a sympton of brainwashing!
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sometimes i call my wife Imelda Marcos....
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Nope, nope, nope. I will not.

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Hehehe... You know you want to...
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That patriarchy, what can't it do?
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I don't agree with the rhetorical spin, but it is easy to see where she's coming from and the line of reasoning. And it is the intolerance of our opposing views that leads to division. Fighting against abortion is as defensible as fighting for it.
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