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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 28
      Replying to @StephanieLahey

      Well, I don't think I'm a feminist at all, obviously. Also, I'm not sure how many choice feminists do think that or how much of it is a straw man. Normally comes down to sex-work, make-up & motherhood. I'm reading about it at the moment.

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    2. Stephanie Lahey‏ @StephanieLahey Jan 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I’d say it’s about more than career versus motherhood, & would highly recommend Michaele L. Ferguson on the topic …

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    3. Stephanie Lahey‏ @StephanieLahey Jan 28
      Replying to @StephanieLahey @HPluckrose

      Linda Hirshman coined the term “choice feminism” in 2005 in ref to the view that feminism had liberated women to make whatever choices they pleased, writing “It all count[s] as ‘feminist’ as long as [a woman] *chose* it”.

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    4. Stephanie Lahey‏ @StephanieLahey Jan 28
      Replying to @StephanieLahey @HPluckrose

      (which is a ridiculous position). Ferguson has good summaries and critiques.

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 28
      Replying to @StephanieLahey

      I don't agree with her argument at all. She blames liberalism for women making their own choices and says that because the personal is political, women should judge each others life choices.

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    6. Stephanie Lahey‏ @StephanieLahey Jan 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I wouldn’t entirely agree with that assessment; I’d say she’s more pointing to an incoherence in certain strains of feminism. How one understands ‘feminism’ (an increasingly fraught discussion itself) likely plays a rôle here.

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 28
      Replying to @StephanieLahey

      I can't support this:pic.twitter.com/3IgSkX2OqL

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    8. Stephanie Lahey‏ @StephanieLahey Jan 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Nor I. But then, I’m not a capital-F, highly politicized feminist. I think she has a point that if you do position yourself as the latter (if feminism is your overarching politico-moral ideology, as it is for many), then not judging other women is inconsistent & incoherent.

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 28
      Replying to @StephanieLahey

      But this depends on what you are judging them for. For wearing make-up & deciding to have another child when your career is already shaky? No. Mind your own business. Women can make both those choices as right for their lives whilst being utterly committed to gender equality.

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    10. Stephanie Lahey‏ @StephanieLahey Jan 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I agree with you on that. I just don’t think it’s the point she was aiming to make.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 28
      Replying to @StephanieLahey

      We've read it very differently, then, I think because I was sure it was.

      4:41 AM - 28 Jan 2018
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        1. Stephanie Lahey‏ @StephanieLahey Jan 28
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          That’s interesting. Fair enough.

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