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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 28

      I have a lot to say about all of them. Well, not so much beauty norms because I think telling people what they should find attractive is probably pointless (but Jesus Christ, young women, what the hell are you doing with your eyebrows?!)

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 28

      I don't find it remotely surprising that men are more attracted to slim women who favour a feminine appearance. I enjoyed being that for most of my life & intend to be slim again. I myself have always been attracted to slim men & women who favour a masculine appearance.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 28

      Policing other people's attractions is futile and presumptuous. I have a lot more to say about gender roles but none of this is authoritarian. I don't think stereotypical ones need to be banned from public view or judged as a serious moral failing in individuals who choose them

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 28

      Because individuality and choice are primary to me. Apparently, this makes me a neo-liberal or 'choice feminist' and this is bad & means I don't understand how much women's choices are constrained by culture. Well, no, I don't.

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    5. Stephanie Lahey‏ @StephanieLahey Jan 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I wouldn’t call that ‘choice feminism’. According to the latter ideology, whatever choice a woman makes is automatically feminist & empowering to her as a woman.

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    6. Stephanie Lahey‏ @StephanieLahey Jan 28
      Replying to @StephanieLahey @HPluckrose

      Women have far more agency than some like to claim, & we do make choices. Sometimes we make choices in line with societal expectations, sometimes we don’t; it does not follow that any choice made by a woman is inherently empowering (as choice feminists claim).

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 28
      Replying to @StephanieLahey

      Well, I don't think I'm a feminist at all, obviously. Also, I'm not sure how many choice feminists do think that or how much of it is a straw man. Normally comes down to sex-work, make-up & motherhood. I'm reading about it at the moment.

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    8. Stephanie Lahey‏ @StephanieLahey Jan 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I’d say it’s about more than career versus motherhood, & would highly recommend Michaele L. Ferguson on the topic …

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    9. Stephanie Lahey‏ @StephanieLahey Jan 28
      Replying to @StephanieLahey @HPluckrose

      Linda Hirshman coined the term “choice feminism” in 2005 in ref to the view that feminism had liberated women to make whatever choices they pleased, writing “It all count[s] as ‘feminist’ as long as [a woman] *chose* it”.

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    10. Stephanie Lahey‏ @StephanieLahey Jan 28
      Replying to @StephanieLahey @HPluckrose

      (which is a ridiculous position). Ferguson has good summaries and critiques.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 28
      Replying to @StephanieLahey

      I don't agree with her argument at all. She blames liberalism for women making their own choices and says that because the personal is political, women should judge each others life choices.

      4:14 AM - 28 Jan 2018
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        2. Stephanie Lahey‏ @StephanieLahey Jan 28
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I wouldn’t entirely agree with that assessment; I’d say she’s more pointing to an incoherence in certain strains of feminism. How one understands ‘feminism’ (an increasingly fraught discussion itself) likely plays a rôle here.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 28
          Replying to @StephanieLahey

          I can't support this:pic.twitter.com/3IgSkX2OqL

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 28
          Replying to @HPluckrose @StephanieLahey

          I found myself much more on board with Snyder-Hall defence of choice feminism in the same publication. It doesn't say any choice a woman makes is feminist but that women can feminist whilst wearing make-up, being homemakers & living within gender roles.pic.twitter.com/lWNu4PGV2S

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        5. Stephanie Lahey‏ @StephanieLahey Jan 28
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I agree with that.

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