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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 28

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Rabbi Josh Yuter

      Yes, but priorities are different from satisfaction. Iona acknowledges the drive to have children - this is probably not socialised - and the gladness of having had them. This is very different to finding them the most satisfying thing ever.https://twitter.com/JYuter/status/957550741450870784 …

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      Totally. What I'm suggesting is that sometimes such priorities may be ingrained at a young age. It still doesn't work for everyone, but it can inflate the numbers.
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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 28

      I've known some women whose greatest satisfaction in life was children. Well, two. An aunt and a friend. They genuinely love the company of children and feel fulfilled by spending their days with them. They both worked with children whilst & after raising their own.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 28

      I love spending time with my own. She is the most intelligent, beautiful & loving child that ever existed after all. Some very special times. And I enjoy reading about child psychology, particularly in the form of real-life stories by specialist educators & foster carers.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 28

      But my primary satisfaction in life is not children. There's a limit to how interesting I find children and this is probably because they don't know much about politics, ethics, religion, ideology, history & culture & learning about these is where my primary satisfaction is.

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        1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 28

          The questions 'Are children the most important thing in most women's lives?' and 'Are children women's primary source of satisfaction?' are very different. I'd say the answer to the first is usually 'yes', to the second usually 'no.'

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        2. Pamela Paresky‏ @PamelaParesky Jan 28
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          According to social science, parenthood is a bad strategy for happiness (until kids are launched) but a good strategy for a meaningful life. (Given my early 2000s dissertation on marriage, flow & happiness, this is my once-every-few-years-in-Aspen argument with @DanTGilbert...)

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 28
          Replying to @PamelaParesky @DanTGilbert

          Yes, maybe that's a good way to look at it. What do children add to the sense of having a satisfying life vs are children women's primary satisfaction.

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        4. Pamela Paresky‏ @PamelaParesky Jan 28
          Replying to @HPluckrose @DanTGilbert

          Children make life meaningful for men too.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 28
          Replying to @PamelaParesky @DanTGilbert

          Absolutely. My husband is someone who naturally enjoys the company of children. My father tells me he is quite glad to have had me and I'm proving quite useful now. (This means 'I love you.')

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        6. Pamela Paresky‏ @PamelaParesky Jan 28
          Replying to @HPluckrose @DanTGilbert

          That's hilarious.

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        7. Pamela Paresky‏ @PamelaParesky Jan 28
          Replying to @PamelaParesky @HPluckrose @DanTGilbert

          Just thought of this: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/happiness-and-the-pursuit-leadership/201602/the-secret-better-date-nights …

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