I'm guessing yes? Bc women usually sacrifice careers, fun, independence and happiness to have children. And they're ok with that. Children make them less happy because they worry about them. This doesn't mean kids are only satisfaction of course. But great thread from Iona
.https://twitter.com/IonaItalia/status/957416623090085893 …
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Sure. But women sacrifice these things willingly. Women don't have to have kids.
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Sure. That's a different point tho. Are women willing to reduce their general satisfaction with life in order to have kids? Demonstrably, yes. The benefits outweigh the costs. Does this make kids the primary satisfaction in a woman's life? Rarely, as far as I can tell.
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Well if you sacrifice your life willingly and knowingly, above all things, to have kids, are they not a woman's primary concern & satisfaction for considerable period of time?
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Primary concern, yes. Satisfaction, no. Women with kids often speak of the wonderfulness of the evening when you've got a few hours to yourself. The liberation when they reach school age. Perhaps, we're just seeing 'satisfaction' differently but I mean it as Iona does.
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It's clear women get satisfaction out of many things. But women sacrifice many other sources of satisfaction in order to have kids. Does that not indicate that kids are valued above all things? For a significant number of years at least?
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Yes. We don't disagree on that at all. But the questions 'Are children the most important thing in most women's lives?' and 'Are children women's primary source of satisfaction?' are very different. I'd say the answer to the first is usually 'yes', to the second usually 'no.'
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Ok
. I took satisfaction to mean "fulfills a need". Kids are at least one of the most important sources of satisfaction. Just ask someone who can't have kids. Careers, hobbies etc don't compensate.
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General consensus among my friends with kids who are now in their teens is that their kids are the most important thing in their lives and they wouldn't be without them but god, it's lovely when they get lives of their own so you can get your own back.
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God no! I will offer a different perspective here as a women who chose not to have children. Relationships, work, hobbies have given me a wholly satisfying life. It’s about me and the happiness and satisfaction I choose to find in life.
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