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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 26
      Replying to @strump3t

      We vote and shit. And have great cultural influence.

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    2. Sarah AKA Almighty Chaos‏ @strump3t Jan 26
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      We have never had a vote on this particular issue. Changes are being made without legislation or real discussion so the fact we can vote is meaningless. We have cultural influence only when deemed appropriate. That isn't freedom or power.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 26
      Replying to @strump3t

      The zeitgeist has changed, yes. Women are part of that.

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    4. Sarah AKA Almighty Chaos‏ @strump3t Jan 26
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Things change all of the time. Not always for the better. Particularly for women.

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 26
      Replying to @strump3t

      Things have changed very much for the better for women. You might have to accept that we don't all agree with you about trans identity.

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    6. Sarah AKA Almighty Chaos‏ @strump3t Jan 26
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Better for some women and none of it is set in stone forever. We will never have universal agreement on many topics but when ideas can have such sweeping repercussions I expect people to defend them robustly with reasoned arguments.

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 26
      Replying to @strump3t

      Yes, I was talking about the West where women have all the rights men do and a couple more in many places.

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    8. Sarah AKA Almighty Chaos‏ @strump3t Jan 26
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Legal rights do not always translate into equality as laws don't magically change people. What rights do women have that men don't and in which places?

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 26
      Replying to @strump3t

      No, men and women still face gender-related expectations but we have the right to ignore them and I do tend to do this. The right to genital integrity and the right not to be drafted to war are right women have and men don't in many places.

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    10. Sarah AKA Almighty Chaos‏ @strump3t Jan 26
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Ignoring expectations based on being a man or woman only works if there is no impact. I can't just ignore losing a job if I get pregnant. Woman don't have a right not to be drafted. They are barred from joining many areas of the military. No idea what you mean by genital itegrity

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 26
      Replying to @strump3t

      You can have the right to decide whether to get pregnant tho. And which of you, if either, takes time off to care for the baby. I mean that, in my country, and many others, female genital mutilation is illegal but male genital mutilation is not.

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        2. Sarah AKA Almighty Chaos‏ @strump3t Jan 26
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          FGM is far more damaging than circumcision. However if men want that banned, they need to organise and I will support them. Women are not standing in the way of that.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 26
          Replying to @strump3t

          At the same level, its still illegal. And men aren't standing in the way of criminalising FGM where that is legal. Women are more in favour of it. But it's an example of a right society thinks only women need.

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        4. Sarah AKA Almighty Chaos‏ @strump3t Jan 26
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Men across the world have more power than women, if men truely wanted to change rules on circumcision, they would. Men don't need to stand in the way of FGM legislation, they just need to not care as women have fewer opportunities to change laws.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 26
          Replying to @strump3t

          Many of them don't. Just as many women don't want abortion to be legal. This doesn't mean they aren't serious gendered issues tho. And men don't tend to have anything to do with FGM. It's seen as women's business.

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        2. Sarah AKA Almighty Chaos‏ @strump3t Jan 26
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Men also have the right to decide if they want to get someone pregnant. Paternity leave is something that needs to be improved but it isn't like men are falling over themselves to take that leave. It's more a tool to improve women's experience in the workplace.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 26
          Replying to @strump3t

          Yes, men have that right too. You'd be surprised how many more men would like to work part-time or be main child-carer than women who want a man who does that.

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        4. Sarah AKA Almighty Chaos‏ @strump3t Jan 26
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Well I wouldn't because I know men in that position.

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