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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 26
      Replying to @boyfromcatford

      There are lots of brain studies. I do mention gender dysphoria.

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    2. R.A.‏ @boyfromcatford Jan 26
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Sorry, you did mention it but didn't properly distinguish it from wider gender ID politics. You do conflate gender with sex too. As for brain studies, there are no male brains or female brains. No pink brain and no blue brain, There are hormonal differences between sexes.

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 26
      Replying to @boyfromcatford

      Just follow the links.

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    4. R.A.‏ @boyfromcatford Jan 26
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I have. I may have even posted a comment. That said I agree with much of it.

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 26
      Replying to @boyfromcatford

      I mean the links in the text which take you to metastudies of neurology and gender.

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    6. R.A.‏ @boyfromcatford Jan 26
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I did. But if you accept "brain sex" stuff (which it seems that those small studies suggest), then you cannot explain detransitioning. Reality is we don't know where dysphoria comes from but that is seperate from wider gender identity politics.

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 26
      Replying to @boyfromcatford

      You can. The brain studies are on people who never detransitioned. See how many studies there are. Gender differences really do exist. People who transition after puberty rarely detransition.

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    8. R.A.‏ @boyfromcatford Jan 26
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Sure, few detransition but you're ignoring those who. Gender doesn't exist. It's socially constructed. There are differences between sexes based on hormones but to suggest there is innate gender identity on the back of a few small and inconclusive samples strikes me as flawed.

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 26
      Replying to @boyfromcatford

      You don't have to ignore them but they don't refute trans identity in the same way that some people saying they've stopped being gay doesn't mean homosexuality doesn't exist. I can't read the studies for you. I can only tell you they are there. Gender differences exist.

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    10. R.A.‏ @boyfromcatford Jan 26
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      You keep saying "gender differences exist." No, gender is sociological. Sex differences exist (which is part of the issue). Comparing gender stuff with sexuality as if they're like for like is also deeply flawed.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 26
      Replying to @boyfromcatford

      Well, if you're only talking about things like 'blue for boys' and 'pink for girls' by 'gender', I agree, this is socially constructed. Usually, people include cognitive, psychological and behavioural differences tho.

      11:26 AM - 26 Jan 2018
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        2. R.A.‏ @boyfromcatford Jan 26
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Such as? There is no difference in IQ for men and women. Some behaviours influenced by hormones, sure. So what other differences are there?

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 26
          Replying to @boyfromcatford

          Spatial vs verbal ability. Communication style. Interest in things vs people. Here is yet another metastudy on this: https://heterodoxacademy.org/2017/08/25/the-most-authoritative-review-paper-on-gender-differences/ …

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        4. R.A.‏ @boyfromcatford Jan 26
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I'm struggling to see what this has to do with gender dysphoria. Unless you're saying men with certain verbal ability, spatial ability and communication style are not really men. Which sounds very problematic to me.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 26
          Replying to @boyfromcatford

          We had moved on to whether biological gender differences exist in the brain.

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