Gender correlates closely with gonads but does not always define it. Good case study of a baby boy with a damaged penis. Doctors constructed a vagina for him & he was raised as a girl. He still always felt he was a boy. His brain told him so & neuroscience tells us how it did.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Because he was a boy, he was male with a damaged penis, not a female. This isn't making a point counter to mine, its reinforces it. It was a male 'trans female' by surgery and the choice of what sounds like horrifically misguided doctors (seriously WTF)- but clearly still a male
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Replying to @OlGingerBastard
But it wasn't having a penis which made him know he was male. He didn't have one. It was other biological aspects of maleness which told him this - his brain told him. Trans people brains tell them the same thing & neuroscientists can see why it does.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
He was a male who knew he was a male - not a male who thought and felt female. This isn't analogous to a male who decides he feels female (leaving aside the 'how can you know what it feels like?' question). A man who thinks his wife is actually his hat doesn't make his wife a hat
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Replying to @OlGingerBastard
You are missing the point. What told him he was male? He had a vagina and his family told him he was a girl. *Other biological indicators of sex* made him know he was male. Biologists have found these indicators in trans people supporting their sense of their own gender.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
We are not Male or Female based on 'who told us' or what we are told. As you say, his biology made him male. What he was told didn't change the fact. You're still ducking the point that to be a 'trans woman' you MUST be a male. A woman cannot be a 'trans woman'.
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Replying to @OlGingerBastard
This is my point. We can't tell people what they are. How did he know what sex he was? It wasn't because he had a penis. I'm not ducking it. I'm pointing out that trans women have biological indicators of maleness. How do you define male?
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Replying to @HPluckrose
You are ducking it. You must be male to be a 'trans woman' True or false?
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Replying to @OlGingerBastard
For the hundredth time, it depends how you define male. If by genitals, yes. If by the full range of biological indicators, no. What sex is someone who has a penis but whose chromosomes, brain and hormones are female-typical? Or any other variation.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
You're basically claiming there is no such thing as gender. I really didn't count you as going along with this POMO nonsense.
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No, I'm not! I;m telling you what the science of sexual differences show us and how this relates to gender identity.
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