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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 25

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted OGB #FBPE

    Interesting question. I was saying that I have not reported the times I have been flashed at or groped but dealt with it myself. Should I have? Should we all report minor assaults?https://twitter.com/OlGingerBastard/status/956500407752241152 …

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    OGB #FBPE @OlGingerBastard
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    Isn't this a very real problem? Why is there absolutely no focus on getting women to report these actual crimes, which often leads to the offender carrying out further, and in cases more serious, crimes with impunity? There is very real complicity here.
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      2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 25

        Perhaps the man who flashed at me went on to rape someone? Perhaps the man who pushed another man outside the pub went on to fracture someone's skull? How do we decide when we should deal with things ourselves and when we should involve authorities?

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 25

        I don't know the answer to that but I am pretty sure that if we think men are OK to handle minor assault themselves, we should not be insisting that women can't make the same decision.

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      2. OGB #FBPE‏ @OlGingerBastard Jan 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        All sexual assaults should be reported and investigated, absolutely yes.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 25
        Replying to @OlGingerBastard

        Well, you can make that decision for yourself if a woman or a man gropes you or flashes at you. What about other assaults?

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      4. OGB #FBPE‏ @OlGingerBastard Jan 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        We have a civic responsibility to report any and all criminal activity we either witness or are victim of, surely you have to agree with that? How can society hope to measure and reduce these crimes otherwise? How can we know whats going on otherwise?

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 25
        Replying to @OlGingerBastard

        No, I don't think we need to involve the authorities in everything and I do think we can handle many issues ourselves.

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      6. OGB #FBPE‏ @OlGingerBastard Jan 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        You think we shouldn't report crimes??? There is very clear evidence that people who commit sexual assaults start off with milder forms before going on to rape, likewise with violent assaults. Can't see your thinking here.

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      7. Silvio Capobianco‏ @capobianco_slv Jan 25
        Replying to @OlGingerBastard @HPluckrose

        Evidence is that people who commit assaults now committed milder harassment earlier, not that people who committed milder harassment earlier commit assaults now. Implication only goes one way.

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      8. Silvio Capobianco‏ @capobianco_slv Jan 25
        Replying to @capobianco_slv @OlGingerBastard @HPluckrose

        Also, maybe some people stopped committing milder harassment, and never went up to assaults, after having been put in their place?

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      9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Jan 25
        Replying to @capobianco_slv @OlGingerBastard

        Yes, I think so. In my late teens and early twenties, boys/yng men would start fights with other men & overstep the boundaries with women much more often coz young men are often not very thoughtful or sensible. They learn.

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      1. not░zero░sum‏ @n0tzer0sum Jan 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        The downside of reporting every small interaction and expecting adjudication is that you ceede power to a central authority to adjudicate trivial interactions between people.

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      1. Chris Withers‏ @Chris_Withers Jan 25
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        If it was a stranger who flashed or groped you, the police do like to know about that. Flashing especially is seen as a possible precursor to other forms of sex offence.

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