When it comes to Marxism vs postmodernism, we have a very different mentality and we see this on the level of epistemology. We have being straightforwardly wrong whilst believing in objective truth and science (Marxism) vs believing there is no right and wrong and not (PoMo)
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We can't call everything which sees oppressed and oppressor classes 'Marxism' just because they saw it in social class. I am going to write a thing which honestly acknowledges that PoMo stepped into the place of Marxism, fulfils same moral foundations & uses some of its ideas.
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But we have to look at postmodernism and related SocJus as it really is - understand the epistemology & politics underlying it, recognise that it has abandoned class issues & the working class and taken the left into bourgeois academic elitism.
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But Marxism abandoned class issues too. That's what cultural Marxism means.
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Huh? Then how is it Marxism?
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It's still revolutionary. It just no longer sees class difference as the instrument of revolution.
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Yes. The revolutionary aspect has moved on from class issues (Marxism) to identity & language issues (postmodernism)
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Replying to @HPluckrose @thatsjoakes and
'Marxism' is not synonymous with 'dismantling perceived structural oppression' or with 'revolution'. That drive can be targeted at anything from slavery to patriarchy to feudalism to theocracy to liberalism. Marxism did it with class.
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I think you mean revolution isn't synonymous with Marxism, hence the French revolution, etc. Marxism at bottom is always revolutionary in a collective sense. when that collective is group identity instead of class, we get cultural marxism instead of classical marxism
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Lots of things are revolutionary. They're not all Marxism because that was about class. Islamic revolutions are not Islamic Marxism. The Reformation was not Protestant Marxism. Marxism is economic theory.
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We just can't tackle postmodernism in SocJus if we think of it as Marxism. It's a phenomenon of it's own and it doesn't work like Marxism. You need to understand how it works.
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I fully agree. but it's still accurate imo to observe that postmodernism works in tandem with (cultural) marxism. After all, pomo is conceivably apolitical. It's telling that few (if any?) rightwing postmodernists exist.
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